Partygate

If he was a honourable man like some on here keep telling us then he would have respected the referendum and not tried in all his powers to stop it and these people tried.

He didn’t respect or honour the will of the people did he but you just keep up with the insults pal.

 

I enjoy banter with anyone without the name calling and insults though if you have a different point of view.

I see you have also called Manninghambantam Stupid not long after posting this.

As I say, you are immature if you can't debate without insults

 

It wasnt even 52% of the electorate. Stop with the 'will of the people' crap. You sound like Putin. Its just clutching straws.

48% of the electorate that voted didnt want brexit. They are entitled to representation regardless of whatever nonesense you spout. Denying half the population the right to representation is exactly what dictators do or idiots who dont understand democracy. If you dont like insults then figure out which one of those categories you fit into yourself.

 

Poor you

 

Yeah

And therein lies labours problem. They pander to minority views because they feel its within their remit. When minority votes dont get you elected.

The airport and NPR would have been major boosts to our economy. One was privately funded the other taxpayer and instead we now have to accept sub standard infrastructure.

The torys and labour both consolidated to screw us once again.

 

Our transport infrastructure outside of London is an absolute embarrassment. I go to places like Poland and see their airports and I'm ashamed to fly out of Leeds Bradford.

 

You seem very angry about Brexit ,poor little you.

52 beats 48% so what don’t you understand about a democratic vote ?

Keep them coming

 

If the vote had gone the other way - 52 to remain and 48 to leave, do you think the hardcore Brexiteers would have all accepted it, packed up and gone home quietly? Of course not. Farage had already publicly stated that he'd push for another referendum if the vote was a close win for Remain.

You are confusing political opposition with personal integrity.

 

If remain did win you are probably right,Leave would have fought on but a difference is we were already in the EU and most leavers would have accepted that .The exit from the EU was never excepted by a very hard core remain vote and many in power who did everything to stop it.

We had a Brexit general election that finally decided the matter and big majority who backed the exit vote.

I’m not confusing anything,I go on what happened and the individuals involved.

 

You've just accepted that the Leave leaders would have fought on if they'd lost the referendum - exactly what you're suggesting was a lack of personal integrity when Starmer did it. Sounds pretty confused to me

 

you have no way of knowing that

 

I said most leavers would have accepted it,read my post again.The people in power would have accepted the result and we wouldn’t have had no major opposition like we did have from the majority of remain MP’s plus the speaker.

 

I know one thing is Cameron would have stayed on and got the backing of most of his Mp’s of respecting the vote like the Scottish independence referendum.

No major revolt and who knows,no Boris

 

But the point you were originally making was that Starmer was being dishonourable by seeking a second referendum, when that is exactly what the Leave side would have done.

 

Dont argue with idiots. You cant win. He cant even put a simple argument together without contradicting himself.

 

He never accepted the first referendum and tried in all his power to stop it (yes to me it was a dishonourable )and I repeat that if remain had won we would have carried on in the EU with most leave and people in power accepting it.

Coming into the General election would have been a different matter.

 

I think you will find he didn’t read my post properly.

Keep them coming big guy.

 

No we wouldn't. The leavers had been agitating to leave since before John Major was PM. They wouldn't have given up trying to get us out if the referendum had gone the other way. They never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum, which was much more clear cut in favour of EU membership. They'd have carried on agitating for us to leave until doomsday.

 

I should have put it better by saying accepting the result of the referendum especially in parliament.

 

You think the right wing headbangers in the ERG would have graciously accepted defeat? Dream on.