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Next Leader of the Labour Party

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Bronco, Jan 17, 2020.

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Who will be the next Labour leader

Poll closed Feb 7, 2020.
  1. Rebecca Long-Bailey

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  2. Lisa Nandy

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  3. Jess Phillips

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  4. Keir Starmer

    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  5. Emily Thornberry

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
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    The only hope Labour has is like PL, EFL and the FA that with this virus happening it's clear that certain systems on how things are run might need looking at.

    Do we really need one government looking after a country?
     
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  2. Park bantam

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    A lot depends how the government get through and come out of this awful situation they have handled it fairly well so far but the next few months will tell a lot. Then the country will be plunged into austerity again so they will have to make sure the poor north carries less of the burden if they want to retain seats
     
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  3. Bronco

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    I believe right minded people will realise no government has been able to get on top of this virus, we hear what China have done (if true) but lets not forget they had a head start on everyone.
    There will IMO have to be several factors to even have a possibility of over turning the Tories 80+ majority one might be the handling of the present situation but they will have to take a long look in the mirror and come forward with a costed manifesto, and policies the electorate believe they could deliver, I can't see that happening in the lifetime of the present government.
     
  4. Bronco

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    I can only see one way we could have your above scenario working and that is proportional representation, unfortunately I don't believe either of the two main parties want that turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
     
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    Just had a look at Starmers new cabinet, don't look the Tories have too much to worry about. Lammy as shadow justice secretary lol. And Rayner as deputy, i'm already pissing myself laughing. Thats just for starters
     
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    Very lightweight and inexperienced, my 2 concerns are Long Bailey as shadow education secretary like we need any more marxists near our kids and Jon (6 million patients lying on trolleys in hospital corridors) Ashworth, a right painful pair to listen to.......
     
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    Inexperienced might not be a bad thing for Labour, it really needs a clear out of the toxic mess that Corbyns rule has left behind. One day they'll get the message that they have to play the game, Corbyn might have been well meaning with his tree hugging antics but surrounded himself with predictable failure, Abbott, Owen Jones hanging off him like an extra foreskin, the anitsemitism furore. You never know, Starmer might be the man to pull the party together. Blair, for all his faults as a war criminal, knew how to play the game (as his tens of millions of pounds show), you won't please all of the party members all of the time, you just need to please enough to get the keys to number 10. Once you got the keys its party time.
    Only time will show wether he has the backing of enough of his party, but this Labour we are talking about.
     
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    Did Burgon get a job?
     
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    Sadly overlooked, he could have been the next Abbott...
     
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    As Tone said, i would have loved to have seen more of his car crash interviews. Shame he was replaced by an equally useless fool.
     
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    we could do that anyway we were never part of the schengen agreement. that agreement was free movement and it has literally never ever applied to us.
     
  12. Bronco

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    EU citizens always had free movement within the EU or why did Cameron go back to the EU and try and get a better deal with regards EU citizens needing a job to come to and not getting unemployment benefits straight away etc, which he thought he could sell as a good deal to the UK electorate, nearly as bad as May's great deal.
     
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    We were never in the schengen zone therefore we can refuse to admit whoever we like. We were treated as a special case in Europe in absolutely loads of areas with regards to opt outs, exemptions etc and this was one of them. For example, how it was legislated that us and Denmark were two countries that would never be under any obligation to start using the Euro as a condition of membership like other countries were. Ultimately you guys won and stuff so crack on and enjoy it etc, but I will remain convinced unless it sparks some sort of super national economic period of plenty that its a completely fecking dumb idea that will achieve the complete opposite of what it actually set out to.
     
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  14. Bronco

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    And it was going so well, typical reply from a bad loser, having a go at the leave voters who by the way actually won the debate twice, as it looked like the remain MPs were going to drag if out with no agreement.
    The Tories kicked Mother Theresa out, Boris becomes leader on a Brexit ticket and gets a 80+ majority, many past Labour voters realising Boris is the only PM serious enough to take the EU on.
    Many of the EU countries are up in armes after the EU budget that was put before them and now countries like Italy are suggesting they could have a referendum, could it be the beginning of the end of the EU.

    Why did Cameron try to renegotiate better terms for the UK with the EU with regards free movement, then said he would offer it to the electorate before the referendum if it wasnt free movement within the EU.
     
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    I accept the result with no issues and literally said you guys won enjoy it, I don't see how that's me as a bad loser unless you're insecure in the first place.You literally won the vote and you're out here saying pity us poor brexiteers. Try having something foisted on you thats made your job and career more difficult, more expensive, more time consuming and restricting in the name of sovereignty and freedom.

    Why do we need to 'take the EU on'? they aren't our enemies, certainly not our biggest issue geo-politically, and legislatively the EU controls us far less than you think. Economically we have greater challenges and threats so I dont see why its such a priority. The latest budget was very tone deaf, but hey who knows it could not be the end because they could all sit round and talk it out after looking at what a shit show we've made of leaving so far and deciding they don't want to end up as irrelevant as we are now. And if it does collapse, do you think our global rivals so to speak would be sad? Or do you think countries like Russia etc would much rather see Europe divided, isolated and 'taking each other on'?
     
  16. Bronco

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    The subject wasnt mentioned until you brought it up, I quoted Starmer would need to review his and the Labour parties stance on Brexit, as he believes we would be better in than out that sort of thinking will not get the likes of me and thousands more voting Labour again you really would think by now that Starmer and the Labour party realised what the last general election was all about Ostrich and sand come to mind.
     
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    I didn't bring anything up, you said something that was factually incorrect and I corrected you and then you went off on some weird tangent about cameron and mays deals and called me a sore loser. As I said, we aint part of schengen and never have been. Cameron lied about freedom of movement like the myriad people on the right who have lied about Europe over the years when it suited them to do so (Boris actually made a 20 odd year journalistic career from repeatedly doing this). One of the few positives from Brexit is that the right will have absolutely nowhere to hide and nobody to blame but themselves when they feck up in future (apart from immigrants and brown people but they'll never stop doing that), instead of hiding behind fabricated EU legislation that doesn't actually exist.
     
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    The Tories breathing a huge sigh of relief with this appointment. Shadow minister for community cohesion lol. Even the title of the job stinks, i mean, 'community cohesion'.
     
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    I might join twitter again just to read the comments on this appointment - should be an amusing way to wile away a few hours.
     
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    Good grief. That’s a terrible appointment.

    Labour are shooting themselves in the foot again.
     

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