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Match Thread Mansfield v City | League 2 | 17 October

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by SimonW, Oct 15, 2020.

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Will City get a WIn?

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  1. JonButterfield

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    We need a non tinkering dinosaur who knows of no formation but 4 4 2 to please this forum!
     
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    The problem I have is "we're suited to it"

    Who is the "we" in this statement because as a collective group half of the players today have played less than 10 games together.

    I think what people mean is 4-4-2 is a basic set up that most lower league teams play.

    The problem with that simple analysis is that our squad is only able to play 4-4-2 with every player in their specialist position when everyone is fit. As soon as someone gets injured we're scrabbling for players in certain positions.

    The right side of the pitch/squad in particular is especially stronger than the left side. It's a bit odd that we haven't tried to get 1/2 more left sided players in.

    I don't mind NOT playing 4-4-2 as long as its because we're playing to our strengths or the strengths of the players fit and available. What I have a problem with is carry on regardless when something isn't working or playing a certain way because of the opposition (the latter I feel Stuart does too often - even today Kenny said they weren't playing Billy in midfield because they had a similar player and it might get congested - he focuses on the opponent too much)
     
  3. JonButterfield

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    Absolutely bang on.

    4 4 2 is right if it sees us making the most out of our available players, which today it seemed to do.

    But if people think DMH is a certain starter or that Donaldson needs to start every week, we're in the Land of Make Believe.

    I wouldn't switch things up for Tuesday; those that are out are likely to still be out, and confidence will be high among that particular xi.

    But beyond that, all bets are off.
     
  4. trevor

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    Stuart needs to make players earn the right to play, When those in the team do well leave them in, That way when players get the chance they know they need to take it rather than just been put in,
     
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    Your last paragraph sort of contradicts your point unless you thought we would have won 3-1 away WITH Billy playing. Maybe we won because so convincingly because he didn't play? In case they were right to look at Mansfield and how they would set up.

    Today we sounded balanced and sounded like a team playing as if they knew what they were doing. A far cry from Monday.

    Today 4-4-2 suited the opposition. It won't always like you say.
     
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    The worlds biggest and most successful teams play 4-4-2 for a reason, They win things,
     
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    Even though he was our best player on the night. I don’t think we should get hung up on saying we must stick with this formation after a win. We bear Bolton and Stevenage playing differently and should have beaten Forest green. We have good wing backs and midfielders to suit. It’s about getting performances out of players in whatever formation
     
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    If we stick with 442, which I think we should, having found a winning formation in which the players are happy, we can keep the current players for Tuesday. They all played well and deserve another chance after a good win. Back-ups are OD/ Hornby, Hosannah/ French, AOC/ Paudie, BRE/Saunders or Paudie, Wood/ Longridge, DMH/Evans or Ismael, Cooke and Watt/ Clarke, Sutton or Evans, Pritchard/ that's where we have a problem, Ismael perhaps, Donaldson and Novak/ Samuels or Guthrie. Stick to a formula and change the personnel if lack of form, injuries or suspensions dictate. It's so obvious but I'd be very surprised if we stick to it because Stuart thinks he's cleverer than that, which he isn't.
     
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    Even though he was our best player on the night. I don’t think we should get hung up on saying we must stick with this formation after a win. We bear Bolton and Stevenage playing differently and should have beaten Forest green. We have good wing backs and midfielders to suit. It’s about getting performances out of players in whatever formation
     
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    Which of the worlds most successful teams play 442 right now? None that I know of
     
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    My mind is whirring at all the received wisdom in this statement. :joy::joy::joy:
     
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  12. Botswana Bantam

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    Which of these can play on the left side of midfield? Longridge is a poor replacement for Wood. Staunton could do a job but then the options at centre back if he plays left back aren't great. Richards-Everton has his first half decent game for months and everyone thinks he's great. Same with DMH, been average at best this season.

    One win doesn't prove anything unfortunately and Stuart hasn't really recruited for a classic 4-4-2 setup.
     
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    Liverpool use it a lot along with most of the Spanish La Liga teams, Everton and sometimes Man City
     
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    I predicted a 3-0 defeat and I was straight on here at the final whistle. I am glad I was proved wrong with the scoreline
     
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    Google is your friend, If your mind can take it :)
     
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    Even though he was our best player on the night. I don’t think we should get hung up on saying we must stick with this formation after a win. We bear Bolton and Stevenage playing differently and should have beaten Forest green. We have good wing backs and midfielders to suit. It’s about getting performances out of players in whatever formation
     
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  17. JonButterfield

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    Fair play :thumbup:
     
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  18. Botswana Bantam

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    Nah, it's fine thanks. I just didn't want your unsubstantiated statement hanging there unchallenged like it was some kind of truth!
     
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    I did point out we had a problem there.
     
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  20. trevor

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    Its ok I understand your aversion to facts, Much better to make mindless challenges than make the effort to check first, BTW it was a correct statement,
     
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