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League 1 Average Attendance so far

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Jabbar, Aug 17, 2025.

  1. Klaatu

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    I don't recall, which stadium?
     
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  2. Kevin1954

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    So who determines the need to adhere to minimum attendance rules within the EFL . If there is no need to report home and away levels what is the point of having a minimum number of away fans being able to attend being published?
    Seems like a pointless rule in that case?
    Hypothetically, we play Stevenage , we are neck and neck to be top. A sell out crowd from Bradford with demand able to outstrip supply. Stevenage bring 300 so can easily be accommodated in the upper TLD . We leave TWO whole blocks empty on Midland Rd , whilst hundreds of Bradford people want tickets yet can’t be accommodated.
    That’s utter madness ?
     
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  3. Kevin1954

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    Was it Harrogate?
     
  4. Gardscoigne

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    I know that happened at Rochdale more than once
     
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    I work with someone from Stevenage...big Liverpool fan!
     
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  6. Storck

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    Yep it is utter madness but has nothing to do with publishing the numbers. The rules state how many tickets we have to offer the other team. That number is based on the total number of tickets available it has nothing to do with how many are sold.
    In you hypothetical situation Stevenage could tell City they dont want the tickets and then they could be sold to City fans.
     
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    The rules:-
    34.2 Facilities for visiting supporters

    34.2.1 Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club’s certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The League may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time.


    The TL Dallas/Bradford End apparently holds 1,664. So too few for the 2,000 rules.
    The Midland Road holds 4,500. This is split into 7 blocks, so roughly 640/650 per block. Away supporters are allocated two full blocks.
    The benefit of this is that if a visiting club, sells less than 1250, their supporters can be accommodated solely in the Midland Road and the Bradford End either closed or used for community/school groups.
    If City could marginally develop the Bradford End so it held a further 360 (perhaps under the scoreboard area with safe standing?), then the whole of the Midland Road could be opened up to City supporters. Easier to manage and no wasted half a block for segregation purposes.
    If City reversed the allocation process and offered the Bradford End first, then looking at the figures produced by @Ashton Bantam@Ashton Bantam then virtually two thirds of clubs ‘average’ away support could be housed in that part of the ground.
    For sure our Yorkshire neighbours like Doncaster, Rotherham and Barnsley may bring more than their average and potentially Stockport and Port Vale, but the Burton’s, Stevenage, Exeters, Orient are highly unlikely to bring over 1,000 never mind 1,664!
     
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  8. Kevin1954

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    That’s fair.
     
  9. Birky Bantam

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    In situations like that it is an agreement between both clubs like we had with Fleetwood last season, if they know they won't sell enough to need the TL Dallas then we can start selling it. If for any reason the opposition demand the full allocation then it would go to the EFL to decide. Effectively the rule is we have to give at least 2,000 if requested like Blackpool requested the full allocation as they knew they would sell over 1,200 but Lincoln have only requested the 1,200 in Midland Road.
     
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  10. Bigrod

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    A strange situation. Blackpool and Lincoln both have the same average number of away fans according to the table below.
    In all fairness Blackpool brought over 1900 last week.
    It is around the same distance from Blackpool/Lincoln to Bradford. Additionally we have 1985 in common.
    As I said earlier, if City offered 1200 (Midland Road only), 1600 (Bradford End only) or 2,000+ both Midland Road and Bradford End, then it perhaps could provide more options.
    Perhaps @Bradford End@Bradford End has an explanation?


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  11. Bradford End

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    I think the confusion lies with the EFL’s guidelines, as some are misconstruing them slightly.

    Ultimately, we’re required to allocate opposition clubs 10% of our operational capacity. The Midland Road blocks and T L Dallas provide a total allocation of 2,753 seats.

    Where home support demands, we’ll always try to accommodate our own supporters in the T L Dallas stand. However, there are instances where away clubs request an additional allocation beyond the 1,284 seats in the Midland Road Blocks. Due to the current configuration of Valley Parade, we can request clubs to pay upfront, should we have a case whereby our own supporters could occupy those seats in the TL Dallas. Why should the club lose out, as some clubs may only bring an additional 200 supporters beyond that initial allocation.

    It boils down to:

    1. Who the club is
    2. What they think they can sell
    3. How quick can they sell them
    4. What West Yorkshire Police think
    5. What is our own demand
    Barnsley, for example, have immediately requested the full allocation. The MR blocks go on sale first and the T L Dallas thereafter. As of this afternoon, they have sold just over 2,000.

    Lincoln, for example, have requested the initial allocation. There’s a high probability this game might be postponed due to the international break, so they understand fans might be hesitant to purchase until they have reassurance either way.

    Not sure if this answers your question.
     
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  12. Birky Bantam

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    I'm surprised Lincoln will be bringing less than 1,200 as it stands, they took nearly 1,900 to Peterborough which is only about 20 minutes less than Lincoln to Bradford. I can only think some of their fans are holding back until confirmation of whether the game is being postponed or not. Looking at their ticketing website it doesn't look like Block G has gone on sale yet other than a 'singing section' so they've probably not even sold 700 yet.
     
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  13. Sergio Pinto III

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    Cardiff - 15,813 at home vs Burton tonight. As predicted, their 20k crowds fall off a cliff.
     
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    Tuesday eve. How does it compare to Udders v Burton on a Saturday or Cardiff v us minus our fans, again on a Saturday?
     
  15. loz

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    Think there might be less for their next home game. Their blogger may find it harder to find fans to interview.
     
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    22k vs us so 20k minus our fans. Burton took 98 tonight to they are over 4k fans down. Thats a huge drop of 20% even for a Tuesday!
     
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    Thanks. Nearly 16k and only 98 smiling faces.
     
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  18. Sergio Pinto III

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    Do you have average for away fans at each ground? Be interesting to see how the away end has been filled at VP vs last season.
     
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  19. Bigrod

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    In part yes.

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding the EFL policy. I thought it was 10% if under a 20,000 capacity, and a minimum of 2,000 if we have in excess of 20,000 which City clearly has.

    However there would not be an EFL requirement to release 2,480 (10% of the total stadium capacity) or 2,753 which the current arrangements allow for.

    However if a visiting club indicates that they may sell between 1200-1600 (with the overspill up to the maximum that the TL Dallas/Bradford End can accommodate), then why not go to that option first?

    You raised such a hypothetical situation with the 1,284 and potential 200 extra.

    It releases the 350 “security covered’ lost seats in Block D, means less segregation policing, and could release 1800+ seats to Bradford supporters in the Midland Road.

    It is thinking out of the box (comfort zone) and trying different ways.
     
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    Sorry @Sergio Pinto III@Sergio Pinto III but no I haven’t. Not to say someone else might not have what you are after.
     
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