League 1 Average Attendance so far

For a team so high in the league, Stevenage folks don't like football very much.

 

Have you ever been to the place ? It’s just like a giant brick and concrete housing estate . Harlow in Essex , Stevenage etc all displaced dependents of Londoners shoved into “ new towns” . No tradition so they prefer to jump on trains and “support” your Arsenals in Stevenages case or Spurs in Harlows . Soulless is my best description.

 

Seems utterly ridiculous to me given the original layout and the size of their crowds vs capacity.....but oh so very Town....just so home fans can be next to away fans and unfurl bedsheet 'tifos'. Really hope we never stoop to needing tifos.

 

Not sure what you mean Storck?

I used to work on the gate at City back in the Prem days and every turnstile had its own counter and was logged.

While technology has moved on, the same principle applies surely - you know if home or away fans are entering into each turnstile and they are either home or away, but can’t be mixed! Each card scanner on each gate must log its own total for that gate for that game?

its then a simple sum from all the gates allowing in away fans in to count the total number of away fans - and it doesn’t really matter if you choose to report the number of actual fans through the gates or the number of tickets sold, you still have a clear number to report?

City used to break it down to know number of ST holders, matchday sales fans and complementaries handed out for free, but they wouldn’t even need to know that to report the number of away fans.

 

I thought it was an EFL requirement to
publicly advise totals and split h/a ? Otherwise how do they know Huddes are sticking to the min number of away fans for the Lego ground ?

 

Plus food and drink, people buying merchandise from the shop…so there’s that to account for too….

 

How do Stevenage do it? Have they super rich owner who is not bothered how much he loses?

 

They have a benefactor going back years who funded them out of L2 . They always keep stum on how much they are spending on players and always had a top class budget even when Wrexham and County were in 2 . Owner has rolled them since 1999.

 

Sheik Rattle'n'roll

 

We should have a decent kitty, pretty sure we wont be over budget either so some left from the summer. I can see us bringing in 1 or 2. Dont see Brad going anywhere this January as we dont have another RWB. Dependent on injuries then Kelly, Lapslie and Kavanagh perhaps.

 

Hope we don't let Kav go.. we're not exactly overloaded up front if we get a couple of injuries. Unless of course we sign a new goal scorer.

 

Might be player who wants 1st team football. May have a bigge role than I anticipate anyway.

 

Is it a requirement to publicly advise of the split, or even the gate? That is why I was saying if they need to upgrade saftware and it isn't needed then it might be low on their priority list

Isn't that just number of tickets available rather than tickets sold. So the number of people attend has nothing to do with how many tickets were abvailable to away fans

 

Without knowing the ins and out of their software and hardware I don't know if each turnstile counts indiviually and reports to a spreadsheet, or such, or if they do so as a whole stand or if they have been set up to do as a preprogrammed set up when it was designed.

So if it was preprogrammed as a group of turnstiles to report as a group and now how those turnstiles are now used has changed they may not be able to simply seperate the number of home/away fans.

As I said this is just a guess from some work with legacy programming that had been moved across to new systems where if programming now would have been done totally differently but had been programmed to an exact spec at the time so any changes to real world mean using work arounds as the cost/time implications were high to build a full new system to fix each small issue. The decision then had to made at some point when does it become more cost efficient to build a new system and do the investment rather than building work rounds and patching the old system all the time.

But as I said it is a total guess and just a suggestion of why maybe they don't sperate the figures as I can not see a reason not to.

 

In the past their was a physical clicker on each gate that fed into a centralised computer. Each gate around VP had its own count, though some counters were a bit erratic.

The guys in the gate then made their own separate count based on stubs received/ST vouchers taken. Ideally the two numbers should tally up, but they didn’t always!

not sure how its changed, mind, as this is 25 years ago im talking, long before digital readers etc!

dont Hudds bang all the away fans behind the goal anymore? Rather than a set up like our Midland Road Stand, which varies for big games if big followings get the whole stand or extra blocks? If so, should be easy for Town to know how many of them turned up?

 

Yep was easier when everything was manual as the numbers were just added up on a bit of paper.

The simple anwser could just be they don't do it becuase they don't have to. It isn't in the EFL regs.

 

It’s certainly a requirement to advise the gate receipts to the taxman? Tickets “ available” bare no resemblance to eventual sales.

 

it is. But we are not the taxman and they are probably not interested in the breakdown of home and away fans. They will be more interested in the breakdown by category of ticket so I’m not sure of the relevance as it is two totally different discussions