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Match Thread Home v Hartlepool Tues 19 Oct @ 19.45pm (Also on ifollow)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bantam4ever, Oct 18, 2021.

  1. Ulysses S Grant

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    Given the success of our commercial team, perhaps Sparks could get his sales bods onto a bit of cold calling around potential buyers.
     
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  2. Bantam75

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    From that Team, There’s only a handful of players who are worth it, those being

    Ridehalgh
    Canavan
    Cousin-Dawson (As Cover for now)
    Songo
    Sutton
    Vernham
    Cooke
    Cook
    Angol

    Those are the players we need to keep an build a team around

    The rest can go. Some of them are just about good enough for League 2 football, some don’t even make the cut.

    Watt is a good player, doesn’t suit our style of play or system, he’l probably do well at a different club. one that may even be in a higher league to us

    Paudie is a basic Lg2 defender. Hasn’t improved at all for a while. Therkeld is shit an has never impressed. Kelleher is pub standard an who knows about Staunton. Foulds should never be forced to play full back again

    Gillied is useless. Scunthorpe must really be shit if he was their player of the year. Where the feck is Eisa? Halfway to January an he’s spent all season on the treatment table. Lavery doesn’t look interested an Robinson is clearly not Adams cup of tea
     
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  3. Ulysses S Grant

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    Foulds IS a fullback. Left back to be precise
     
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  4. Botswana Bantam

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    If we take what you say as being accurate then surely there is an option to change formation or tactics?

    Doing the same thing with the same players every match isn't being very successful at the moment.
     
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  5. Bantam75

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    Doesn’t look like one.
     
  6. bantam2708

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    I agree something needs to change but I'm not sure we have that luxury with the options we have.
     
  7. trevor

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    Adams does not know his best team, Trouble is the players know it and are losing confidence in him, The repeated picking of Thelkold, Gilliard and an out of form Watt is sapping the teams confidence that he knows what he is doing and his failure to respond to the oppositions tactics is not helping them either
     
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  8. Botswana Bantam

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    Forgive me though, it kind of sounds like you're saying "there's nothing we can do so let's carry on doing what we're doing even though it's not working"!
     
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    You mean what the manager is doing?
     
  10. Petrov

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    Maybe Derek wrongly put his faith in Turnbull and agreed to signings based on Turnbull's recommendations, believing that he knew what he was talking about. Having then had a couple of months working with those players and seeing them play, he quickly came to the conclusion Turnbull didn't know Jack sh!t and hense got rid before he could do anymore damage in the next window.
    Might be wide of the mark, but it doesn't seem that unbelievable to me.
     
  11. 1975citygent

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    Using what we are stuck with we need to shake things up and I hope Adams feels the same. I personally think we need to take Gillead, Watt and Callum Cooke out of the starting eleven for a while possibly long term.
    If he is now fully fit I would move Songo'o to central midfield alongside Sutton, with Vernan and possibly Scales either side in a 4 4 2. Bring Canavan back, keep Finn at right back and put Robinson in alongside Cook, we can't carry on with Cooke on his own waiting for Angol to get fit (and stay fit).
    Most of the players who are out of contract at the end of the season will probably be told they can leave in January if they can get a club.
     
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  12. ahar964

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    I believe in his post match interview kast night Adams actually said he needs to look at the formation to make us harder to beat and although I can't remember his exact words he insinuated we might have too many fancy dans. How he is going to balance making us harder to beat with the need to score more goals is beyond me. I can't imagine it will be pretty
     
  13. 1975citygent

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    We also got turned with a 2 goal salvo from a 5'8" number 9 who we had on loan 10 years ago.
     
  14. The Original EB

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    Here's the link https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09z4mkl
     
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  15. WilsdenBantam

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    It’s a strange one, and even is fans don’t fully know how recruitment worked with them so that shows a lack of transparency from the club. We can’t solely blame Turnbull, Adams or Sparks so let’s presume it was a team effort for one of a better word. I still have no idea why Sparks was calling Peterborough asking if they have any players, he doesn’t have the credentials to be involved in recruitment in anyway shape or form but that one incident shows to me the dynamic wasn’t right. What is dodgy about Turnbull is how he hired his son on the payroll, again does he even have the credentials or was he doing him a favour? Also a lot of players seemed to come from clubs he’s worked with in the past, again a lack of imagination or just sheer incompetence. Either way the proof is in the pudding and that set up just didn’t work with them personnel. Whether his fault or not, getting rid of Turnbull makes more and more sense with every defeat. Adams has since brought in his own men and now January lays directly at his door.
     
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  16. Parader

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    Does he really strike you as the kind of manager who would blindly accept Turnbull's recommendations?

    It isn't as if Adams is new to the league and would have been unaware of the standard/ability of these players.
     
  17. Captain Grumpy

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    I suspect he’s going to play a formation similar to the one he had at Plymouth when they were bottom of league one. They ground out a 1-0 win at Stuart McCalls City team and eventually they finished just outside the playoffs.
     
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  18. Botswana Bantam

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    T&S managed....

    I'll get mi'tin hat.... :joy:
     
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  19. Botswana Bantam

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    Ouch! :eek2:

    :joy:
     
  20. WilsdenBantam

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    We are soft but I’m not sure it’s all on formation they couldn’t even win 50/50s or even 60/40s last night that might help. I hope he doesn’t go down the T & S route and we have about 2 shots a game a rely on a worldie because the football was as bad as Bowyers last season. I’d change personnel before formation or strategy tbh. Start by dropping Watt and bringing Cannavan back in and get a bit more steel through the spine, but it doesn’t mean we can’t attack.
     
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