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  1. Mike Hunt

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    If your kid was offered a choice of ManYoo’s academy or Bradford City’s, which one is he going to?
     
  2. Hulmebantam

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    Manchester United annual revenue close to £600m, ours is around £5m. We cannot compete with the scouting of the top Premier League clubs. I taught an 8 Yr old last year, had both Manchester clubs and Liverpool after him. He had a kick around with Raheem Sterling and Phil Foden when he and his family were being shown around at Manchester City.

    Don't think we can criticise the club on this.
     
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  3. Frank Castle

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    What a game to make your debut.
     
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  4. Fordy117

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    It's football.

    Happens to all clubs.
     
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  5. Tyersalbantam

    Tyersalbantam Youngster

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    Sadly teams like Man u and man city can afford to give parents a car and pay them a scouts wage ive seen it happen.
    If you have a player thats got any form of talent the scouts come out of the woodwork.
     
  6. Mike Hunt

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    Bought Tomlinson off us after a couple of dozen first team games and some goals for a half decent wedge in those days and a pre season friendly IIRC. A bit different to Cleverly and Wisdom etc.

    Talented player, would have gone far if he hadn’t got injured.
     
  7. Ricky

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    My lad plays u7 football and their is scouts at most games that he plays in from many of the northern big clubs man Utd man city Liverpool Everton etc they just pick up as many as kids as they can then reject 99% before they get to 13/14
     
  8. Rogered Tart

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    You do realise Bradford didn't and will never have a chance of harnessing any of that talent a young age. Even most of the ones that do get a start at first team aren't good enough, the likes of Ashley Fletcher who has been mentioned already. Its why teams like Brentford have done away with their academy, it was losing them £2 million a year with no real success. Best you can hope is that of the thousands of youngsters that don't make it, a potential talent might slip through the net, one that still hasn't reached his potential for one reason or another. Either that or you speculate on players like Peterborough and we ain't gonna do that.
     
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  9. Idlebantam

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    We can. I remember seeing City mad Tom Cleverley in the playground at Blakehill School as a 6 year old, amazing talent even at that age.
    City soon snapped him up but then of course lost him to Man Utd. Theres nothing we can do about it when a lad and his family's head is turned.
     
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  10. Park bantam

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    Budding pro footballers really stand out. I remember playing against Bruce Bannister many years a go he could play a bit
     
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  11. Interested Bystander

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    The Mason Greenwood that started in the PL today?
     
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  12. SimonW

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    The thing is even if you could it's probably better all round that you don't. Sport is now so science-based that the likes of Vardy who worked from non-league to champions league have got increasingly harder to the point it's almost non-existent. If you don't get the right football education early on the chance of making a living out of football in the future diminishes massively and when you get outside of at least the Championship if not the Premiership the resources just aren't there to provide that at the right level. They get a higher level of training early on and are having to compete against some of the best players in their age group for game time and to get academy papers at 16 that it makes them better players than they would be elsewhere. And even if they don't make it at the top club they are better equipped to make it lower down. So you have a chance of picking up players who didn't make it but have had good training behind them so a solid base to make them into lower level player for much less money than training them from say 8

    There is also the education outside of football aspect. While most aren't at Man City's levels where they pay private tuition at a private school but most PL teams do have agreements with the best state schools in the area that ensures a place for their players (in exchange for a hefty donation which helps improve the school for everyone) so they also get a good education if they don't make it as footballers. As you go down the league's clubs don't have the money to be able to make such donations to ensure their academy players are in a good school and certainly not enough to really help the school get even better. Those who get cut from most PL teams now even if its before the age of 16 are much more likely to be able to make a good life for themselves outside of football and these days clubs pay real attention to school performance and not just ignore it like they would decades ago
     
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  13. Onside

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    Didn’t sit right with me, he had barely started, and suddenly he was off to the big boys, I forgot about the friendly:) Horrible injury, he commentated on Pulse recently, he is still a city fan.
     
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  14. Onside

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    Oh I know, but I don’t like it, and it can ruin your career. Man U loan him out almost immediately.
     
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  15. Skyebantam

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    His ‘overhead kick’ at Rotherham is the one I remember. Like you say, he could have had a good career but for the bad luck with injury.
     
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  16. Idlebantam

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    My first footballing hero was Banny
     
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  17. hippo

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    Maybe Reeves could be available for kick arounds. Shouldn't be too strenuous.
     
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  18. DeadShotKeen

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    Born in KTown brought up in Bolton...
     
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  19. bantamJS

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    I've made a team on fifa purely from players who were born in Bradford/Keighley, and some surrounding areas like Dewsbury. Unbelievable the talent that has come through tbh
     
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  20. QCFC BANTAM

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    As I have said numerous times, I coach at Queensbury and we have had Man City, Man Utd, Sheffield Utd, Blackburn, Burnley etc at our club looking at our youngest players and they come up at least twice every six months or so. They can afford many scouts to go around the club's in our area. BCFC had a night at @ Apperley Bridge and basically asked for us grassroots coaches to get in touch with them if we thought they would be good enough as they didn't have many scouts!! I have referred a few as a City fan but the scout only came up as he went to school with another of our coaches. There is no way we can compete at all. Had a kid who went to BCFC, SUFC and MCFC and unsurprisingly signed for MCFC after going around their facilities.....
     
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