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Football Ownership

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Jordan, Jan 10, 2025.

  1. Jordan

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    If anyone watched The Overlap Youtube channel, the fan debate this week was a very interesting watch. They have Kieran Maguire, the financial expert guy in football. If you've ever seen a breakdown of any finances online, 99% of the time it was Kierans account. Very interesting chat around ownership and how its becoming a US thing now, not just in the prem but also down the pyramid. With Evertons new ownership, we are now at 14/20 PL teams with American ownership in some way, shape or form.

    They just have a completely alien thought of ownership to how us fans see our clubs and I think some clubs like Carlisle and Gillingham are seeing that too.
     
  2. andyc

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    Most yanks are as mad as a box of frogs anyhow. Give them money and they go even crazier.
    Long gone are the days of your local business running the town's football club, although quite a lot of them were dodgy characters.
    Oh for teams owned by the fans.
     
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    They were talking about a club i think it was in Orlando, who played at an old college football stadium which was 60 something thousand capacity and they were getting 30ish thousands for big games. The owners built a purpose football stadium when the went to the MLS that was 20,000 seater. The CEO was an English guy and when they asked why the owners made a ground that was smaller than they were getting down the road, he said it was because you can charge more selling out a smaller ground that selling cheaper tickets to half fill another stadium. So rather than sell 30,000 tickets at 30 dollars a pop, they sell 20,000 at mental pricing. The season tickets at Orlando if you want to sit near the dugouts on the half way line are just under $3000 per season, their cheapest was about $360 per season. I went over to New York a couple of years back and watched Giants vs Eagles and the average ticket price for the one off game was about $500. Just stupid pricing is standard in America.

    Think there is a fear with all these Yank owners coming in, and now they have 14/20 PL clubs, they could vote in some change to pricing which will make football even more unaffordable for the standard fans.
     
  4. andyc

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    This is when government regulation is needed, to stop the greed and general ripping off of fans with ticket and merchandise pricing
    As much as we have had talk of some form of government control , it will not happen, as FIFA see it as outside interference
     
  5. Jordan

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    I think in the next few years they'll try a super league again. These big clubs will try fork off again and make their own league of greed and charge stupid prices because they know they can. They go into it on the youtube show, but these days football is marketed to the tourists. Clubs are making a killing using this dynamic pricing model and having tourists come in once.
     
  6. bailiff bridge bantam

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    Off topic a bit but his comments on the Man City charges were very enlightening.
    He thinks they are potentially looking at a massive points deduction if found guilty.
    Enough to relegate them.
     
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  7. Jordan

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    It's how many isn't it? If it's 40 points, you could see Man City still getting enough points to stay up to be honest. On the last 3 seasons, you've needed an average of 33 points to stay up in the Prem. I can see City getting 73 points for sure in a season. If they are going to do it, they need to make it like 50/60 points and make sure they go down.
     
  8. andyc

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    No chance of it happening.
    The legal challenge would be massive and i do not think the football authorities have the stomach or finances for it.
     
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    I know you saw it but he obviously mentioned 60-100 which is mind blowing really.

    I suppose if they are proved to have committed “fraud” (which is what they are effectively accused of) over a period of 9/10 years the punishment has to fit the crime.
    The repercussions will rock top flight football to the core if that’s the end result.
     
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  10. Jordan

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    The longer it's kicked down the road, it certainly feels that way. I mean these charges were brought up years ago, and were are still no closer to anything coming down. Given they cant relegate them, all they can do to "get rid" for a season would be a huge deduction but then that opens up a can of worms of itself.
     
  11. andyc

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    They have managed to deal with the so called lesser clubs in a reasonable time frame
     

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