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England Vs Australia

Discussion in 'General Sport' started by Bronco, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. Get Rid Of It

    Get Rid Of It Well-Known Member
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    Jack Leach might 'coz he is a friggin beast.

    It is in his hands, the making of a legend part 2.

    I am just off to clean me glasses.
     
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    love him.... reminds me of Radar out of Mash
     
  3. Bronco

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    Nail biting time, not the biggest cricket fan but this is compelling viewing, oh dear 9 down.
     
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    No Leach, no chance, did well to get it down to 15 overs but have given the ashes to aussies again.
     
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    Pretty close series apart from Smith being super human. He's been the difference .
     
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    Had some good banter with the Aussies today but, they had the last laugh. As ever some sloppy wickets in Burns and Stokes. Too easy a collapse after the fortunate Root on a decent surface. Around 60 runs for 5 wickets?
     
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    Our test team is total garbage, first thing to do is drop Root as captain. He’s not only not very good at it, but it’s also distracting his batting.
     
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    Agree about Root. His has looked lost and unhappy this series.

    I think you are harsh about calling the team garbage though.

    We have some very good bowlers. Archer and Curran, for example, should be cemented into the side for many years, the way Broad and Anderson were. Woakes has also impressed me this summer.

    We have very good options in the middle order.

    Bairstow and Buttler provide good competion behind the stumps

    The top 4 batting line up is the real problem.

    I would persevere with Burns. Root is far better at 4. However, we need to somehow come up with anothet option as opening partner for Burns, and a good solid number 3.

    Despite out batting problems, if it wasnt for the machine called Steve Smith, we would have had the Ashes sewn up now.
     
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    I get what you’re saying about Smith and agree he’s been the difference, but in a team of 11 one player shouldn’t have such an effect unless it’s weak opposition. Even with him out we required a miracle innings from Stokes.

    I agree on Archer looks a world class bowler already, think you’re getting a bit carried away with Curran though tbh, he did well today, but if the ball isn’t swinging he’s poor. I think Woakes has been poor tbh which is why Root has been reluctant to go to him, he’s good in ODI’s(like a lot of this team) but can’t think what he’s done in the Ashes to impress?

    Batting wise we’re just far to inconsistent, We were let off by poor Australian fielding or we’d be behind in this test again. Buttler and Bairstow might be good with the gloves but now you need keepers who contribute with the bat, especially if you have two playing. Again neither have done anything really this series. The top 4 is a disgrace and we won’t get anywhere with them sorry to say, at least Australia have 2 out of the top 4 who stick around and constantly get runs.

    Sorry to say I don’t share your optimism just because we’ve looked a bit better this game when the Ashes are already lost, this is the worst Australia team I’ve seen over on these shores, the only two truly class players on display are Cummings and Smith. The test team needs gutting and rebuilding. I’d start by bringing Foakes in, he did well in Sri Lanka. I’d stick with Burns as well at least for a bit. But I stick by this team is garbage, it won’t be the same 11 that starts the next test, and rightly so.
     
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    Bit harsh but understandable. Root is genuine class and would walk into any test side. Bairstow was the number 1 batsman in test cricket not so long ago. That's 2 decent batsmen and we have Stokes and Buttler who do ok. There's not many sides in world cricket with top class batting orders now. Is that as a result of T20 and the popularity of the one day game? Probably. But we're on a par with other test nations there. Our bowling attack is decent on home soil and ok abroad. Archer's genuine pace will cause anyone problems. I genuinely believe we'd have won this series were it not for Smith. Yes we only scraped home in the match he missed but that was after a freak 1st innings collapse that you'd hope wouldn't be repeated too often. Very rare a test nation makes such a low total.
     
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    We’ve been skittled out within a session multiple times in the last 3 years, these freak collapses aren’t to rare recently.
     
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    Yes but we've done the same to others, it's not just us. We'd have skittled the Aussies out several times this series without Smith. He's been outstanding. I think back to other stoic batsmen of recent times on tour and I immediately place Rahul Dravid and Shiv Chanderpaul right up there. Smith is different though because he doesn't just stick around, he scores plenty when the time is right. So much so it was a surprise to see him get out today missing one rather than being caught trying to score.
     
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    No one was as surprised as Woakes lol. Speaking of Chanderpaul, Burns’ technique reminds me very much of him which is why I’d keep him around, can imagine him been able to score good runs on flat pitches that don’t swing much.
     

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