EFL Release Funds to Clubs

Very pleased to read about clubs loyalty to
employees.

 

@Faithful Bantam@StaffordBantam @WilsdenBantam told you the tv contracts won't count if the season doesn't finish.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8132883/Premier-League-pay-762m-dont-finish-season-TV-contract-breaches.html

The EFL will be in the same position

Luckily, everyone agrees the season needs to finish but seriously TV companies and the likes need to do more for football

 

The same will hold for next season if a full season isn’t played

 

That's all well and good but this is unprecedented and Force Majuere will apply. I cant see the courts being harsh or firm given the circumstances. And looking at the latest, football ain't coming back any time soon.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-social-distancing-needs-to-be-in-place-for-most-of-a-year-say-government-advisers-11960920

 

Sport will come back mate but behind closed doors.

Force Majuere won't apply as lawyers would of looked into this a million times now and the tv contract will be breached. It's been mentioned lots on tv and radio.

Why do you think Boris isn't closing pubs, restaurants, gyms etc? It's because insurance companies don't have to pay out but when he says close the they is a high possibility they will have too.

Anyway, the situation will go on for a long time but no way TV, Bookies etc will be wanting it to carry on for much longer.

Sky seem to be on an agenda. Stories like that will put many companies out of business.

 

The pubs etc haven't been shut because the government is phasing its restrictions. Look at the panic that's already ensued - can you imagine the response if the immediate action had been to shut everything?

These are completely unprecedented times,. Globally. There's no way Force Majeure WON'T apply, or at the very least, courts won't enforce the contracts that do apply under the circumstances. The companies involved in football will piss and moan all they want, because its a cottage industry that has no sense of wider reality, but the fact is that this crisis is SO much bigger than football. Football doesn't even come into it. Overnight, its been relegated to an inconsequential thing.

And its glib to think that football will come back but behind closed doors. Why should it? Why should those in all aspects of the game be put at risk? And if the government wants to continue pushing a hard message around social restriction, they can't be seen to be soft and allow sports to resume, because what else then becomes allowed? And one of the biggest factors in people socializing in numbers - is to watch sports! if not in the ground, then in pubs, and if not pubs, in peoples private residences or public gatherings.

The leagues can be as keen as they want to conclude the season, but they have NO control over this thing. And the legalities of sponsorships and TV deals will mean bugger all in the grand scheme. No one will have sympathy, because whether its 3 months or 2 years, the big money leagues will survive just fine.

Time will tell what pans out, but if we're looking at a situation whereby football can't be played for nearly a year, that will force a change in thinking in terms of the approach.

 

Mate, it's too late about the panic and you only need to go to your local supermarket to see that.

2 weeks Boris has told us all not to go to pubs, restaurants, gyms etc but they all remain open and people still going. This isn't about panic. It's serious but like Gary Neville said last night and papers are highlighting it's down to insurance why he isn't forcing it.

You're hanging on to Force Majeure but nothing is saying it will apply. Nothing and Boris is highlighting that by being so god damn weak. True leaders make tough decisions.

I'm PM now needs to do more to look after sport along with the PL, EFL and others.

 

Not disputing that the insurance aspect won't be part of it, granted.

I'm not hanging onto anything, just pointing out that the decisions taken in respect of the football, won't really be under the sole control of the leagues or the commercial contracts. It'll be driven by much bigger, wider public health and economic considerations. Football is going to have to get used to being on the back burner of life for at least a while.

 

We’ll see. Just listen to what Gary Neville said last night and why he believes you can’t simply play it behind closed doors. I don’t think the season will finish, but as the PL and EFL are different bodies I can see a situation where in the PL due to how far ahead Liverpool are they’re awarded the league and there is no relegation.

Can’t do that in the EFL however as the leagues are all to tight and some teams have games in hand etc.

Also have a look on the BBC website it says measures like this or even more could be in place until near the end of the year.
I just don’t see how this season finishes. The PLs response to TV deals will be take us to court, and I doubt under the extreme circumstances any will win.

 

The season will finish but if it doesn't the business world will be in deep deep trouble and it doesn't matter if you work for a global company or you're a sole trader.

Behind closed doors can happen for Pl but you're right EFL need more thought but this is why 50m isn't nowhere near enough at this moment.

No point ending this season then next season starts in 2 years that will drive people crazy.

Sport helps the society in a positive mental way. People need sport.

I do think clubs like Hearts are using the situation as an excuse to cut wage bills after poor recruitment and large squads this will also start in this country unless the EFL, government and PL in this country do more.

 

I think they need to consider this season finished. Come up with an outcome - either void it, or some other means of locking down positions. Plan for how next season is managed. It's less of a knock on impact and you can make assumptions around delays, for example and hopefully for 1 season only:

No domestic cups of any kind next season.
Revised format of European cups to reduce fixtures. No leagues, all ties over 1 leg only, drawn with home and away teams. Apply seeding if necessary.
No winter break.
No international friendlies - a problem ahead of a summer tournament but so be it, everyone will be in the same boat. Run the Euro's Mid June to Mid July. The following season can start early sept so the players get 3 weeks break and 3 weeks pre season.

That way, every club in every league will have in the region of 46 games max. Assuming 2 games a week most weeks, you can complete the season in 6 months. Assume next season starts in Nov, but you can have a month's contingency in case its Dec. If Social distancing remains in place at the start of the season and its possible, games to be played behind closed doors.

The lower league clubs will be hit financially by the loss of the cups, so they'll need to be compensated.

I don't see any way of finishing this season without MASSIVE upheaval to subsequent seasons.

 

The leagues and UEFA/FIFA will make decision based on one thing only and that is financial. Whatever they do will upset some people and they will get legal advice on which option will cost them least with either pay outs or legal challenges. If they void this season then Liverpool will probably sue, Leeds and the others pushing for promotion as well, Sky/BT will sue. If they just end it now those relegated will sue, those that miss out on Europe, those that miss out on promotion will sue, Sky/BT will sue. If they curtail next season by shortening or removing cups then the Tv companies will sue.

In all these circumstances Sky/BT will be looking for compensation or reduced payments. Only way to stop clubs sueing will be to complete this season and then reduce next season somehow.

 

If the TV companies are looking to make reduced payments then on the same basis the TV company customers should be entitled to a refund as they have not received as advertised what they bought into.

 

Sky are allowing people to pause their subscription to Sky Sports, which is probably part of their plan so when it goes to court they can say they offered their customers an option to stop payments so they shouldn't hacve to pay either

 

How depressing. An unprecedented global crisis. Thousands are dying, it might end up being millions, jobs lost, homes will be lost, family events destroyed, the most vulnerable will be isolated, and the fat cat company's will still make their decisions based on their P&L and Balance Sheets.

 

The only fair way is to finish the season whenever that is. Teams like Liverpool and Leeds have earned their right To their reward

 

As Arrigo Sacchi once said "Football is the most important of the unimportant things in life".

 

I wonder if the wage subsidies announced this afternoon from the impressive chancellor can be used by football clubs

 

The scenes of people in supermarkets caring only for themselves is ironically the same scenario with the very organisations you mentioned, bleeding the public dry for every penny they can get for their wealthy share holders yet doing nothing in return to help the unfortunate souls at the bottom of the ladder. This virus has shown a lot of peoples true colours, something that should be kept in mind when order is restored a few months down the line.

 

Its been interesting to see with the effects of this virus how the publics mindset has changed in terms of prioritising peoples roles in society. Folk who for too long have effectively been taken for granted are now looked at in a different light, whilst people who are only really there for supposed pleasure but paid vast sums for doing it are now bottom of the ladder. Its been amusing watching 'celebrities' on social media desperately trying to create some sort relevance to their now cancelled lives as people concentrate on what really important matters.