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Danny Rowe - The New Charlie Wyke - now with poll

Discussion in 'Where are they now' started by Ulysses S Grant, Feb 19, 2021.

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will Danny Rowe be missed

  1. Yes he was dynamite

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    31.0%
  2. No he had starch in his shorts

    25 vote(s)
    43.1%
  3. Whos Danny Rowe

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    25.9%
  1. simons (woking bantam)

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    You also need to consider Doyle has a career of about 150 goals in the Football League - not sure of Rowe's figs but know they are nowhere near this total. Both in their early 30s so similar age, just think there are additional complexities about Dannys character that play a factor in all of this
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    Rowe and Doyle is the wrong analogy. One has played the last ten years in the professional leagues. The other has been in just over a season. If you think Rowe is not being used correctly then you don't rate Trueman and Sellars.
     
  3. King Cole

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    Your second paragraph highlights the need for the "due diligence', I referred to. If we've got a wrong 'un, he needs shifting.
     
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    An enormous amount of speculation here. In Saturdays example, Perhaps T&S saw greater opportunity in getting back into the game with the players on the pitch rather than bringing Rowe on?

    I’m offering a counter argument - personally something doesn’t seem right, but it could easily be down to form and a disgruntled player not getting the game time he wants. STOP THE PRESS! “Player not happy about not playing!” Doesn’t mean he a ‘baddun’, but means it’s up to T&S to manage. Are they capable??

    As I say, I’m only offering an alternative prospective. What id like to see is T&S figuring out how they can get something out of Rowe so we see the player we saw in his first few games. After all that is their job. There’s a player in there and he offers something to squad, he’s shown glimpses of that. Lumping the ball up to him in the games he did start recently clearly isn’t the answer.

    Whether Rowe himself is interested is another topic. He’s demeanour doesn’t necessarily radiate that, but that can simply be down to personality, which again is fine with me as long as it comes with performances on the pitch.
     
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    What is failed to mention is that he’s 32 years old, yet still apparently tactically inexperienced. There was a comment from PP about Dylan Motley Henry being a good player with a bad football brain. I see no difference from Rowe. Seems the fact he doesn’t know how to play a certain tactic is hampering his career. As the article states, Cook is asked to play the lone striker role, and he sticks to it both positionally and mentally. This is why he’s the starting player and is in a decent run of goals. He could quite easily sit and sulk if things don’t go his way, but he doesn’t. He gets his head down and does what the managers ask.

    Will be interesting to see tonight what happens. More and more baying for two up front to start.
     
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    Sorry TB but I really don't see that. Danny Rowe has great footballing brain, definitely superior to a lot of those around him but he doesn't get to use it as the ball is constantly flying either at his head or 6 foot over it.

    If we kept it in the floor, with players like Callum Cooke around him Danny Rowe could be a great asset at this level.

    Whether the managers are brave enough to fit him into a workable system though is another matter.
     
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  9. TallinnBantam

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    Yes, but we haven't got Callum Cooke around him at the moment, and are having to play a tactic to cope without him....which seems Rowe can't adapt to. Andy Cook has. That's what I meant by footballing brain. As I stated, Cook has stuck to the role given to him (and he's also had balls flying at his head and 6 foot over it) and has still got goals. Rowe gets impatient and comes deep to get the ball, unhinging any game plan we have (I know I know...we have a gameplan right?).

    I think what you're really asking, is if the managers are brave enough to change the entire system to fit around Danny Rowe? Perhaps that's the question Oldham had also. I suppose we have the answer to that, because Danny Rowe is now a Bradford City player.

    Don't get me wrong - there's certainly a player there. He's got great feet and good vision. I'm just wondering if his temperament is suitable to adapt to a system where he's not the number one channel to feet. Something our management seem a bit cautious about.
     
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    We can't play Cook, Rowe and Cooke together. Rowe spends more time in the space that Cooke would occupy and that doesn't help either Andy Cook or Callum Cooke. Rowe does have attributes but theyre not part of two upfront and Cooke is the better player in the 10. And Andy Cook gets picked as a starter because he fits the formation better. 8 goals in 12 is testament to that.
     
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    And Rowe can't play up top on his own. So it does beg the question, what position was he signed for? Have we tried him as an attacking mid behind Cook and Donaldson? Maybe that would work. Or the centre of a midfield three of Crankshaw Rowe Vernam, with Cook as the lone striker.

    And here we go - I'm proving my point. Changing the whole shape of the side, just to fit him in. Maybe he'll be happy doing that, but perhaps Cook - at present, the only player who seems to be finding the net on regular occasions - might suffer.

    Danny "the enigma" Rowe!!
     
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    Funny you use the word enigma because i've used it a few times on social media chats regarding him. And the fact you would have to build your team around him to get results from him. Its not that i think hes a bad player, although i don't rate him like some do on here. And i don't think he's good enough to warrant building a team around. Technically he's good with the ball played directly to his feet. And he has a very good shot on him. Wether that alone justifies a starting place i'm not sure.
     
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    I completely agree that Cook fits the system better, I just don't agree that its down to footballing intelligence. Cook fits the system better because he's got the attributes (I'm including work rate in that) to play the role and for me should be the first name on the team sheet.

    If, for instance, we constantly played into the channels for Cook to chase though he wouldn't be half as effective but that's not footballing intelligence, it's just that he doesn't have the pace for that type of system.
     
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    I think footballing intelligence encapsulates a lot of skills, including teamwork, awareness of others in the formation played, and understanding tactics and the objective they are trying to achieve. The reason I'm questioning Rowe's intelligence as a footballer, is the very same point you highlight about Cook. Cook has got the attributes to play to the tactic he's been given. Rowe I think, does not. Maybe lack of intelligence is the wrong word. Tactical awareness and experience within it, is probably more correct. I think it comes down to the fact, that when he really cut his cloth as a player, he was given free reign to do what he wanted, and the team was built around him. Sadly, that doesn't often happen at most football clubs, unless you are an absolute top draw talent.
     
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    i haven't mentioned football intelligence. All our stirkers have different attributes, both Novak and Cook look more suited to a lone striker role because they are more mobile than Rowe. Rowe's best position is just behind a main striker, he does his best work around the perimiter of the box. We could get away with playing him there if we had say Josh Cullen or Lee Evans playing behind him but we don't. Our two central midfielders have looked poor since Callum Cooke was out, Watt especially, because his work rate and willingness to drop to help covers their deficiencies. Rowe doesn't have that to his game, he gets outpaced by most centre backs and either gives away a late foul by the touchline or just gives up the chase. Hence the luxury player quote from some.
    So there is a good player in Rowe, but we'd have to change a lot to see it.
     
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    Absolutely crazy

     
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    Strange one this. No playing time last two games and bit parts before that, looks totally uninterested but that could be just his manner. i personally don't see how he can fit into the style we play. Novak coming back means he could be pushed further down the pecking order.. i could be persuaded to say let him go.
     
  18. Get Rid Of It

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    Didn't Turnbull come to us via Chesterfield, probably doing them a favour by giving them a goalscoring striker/forward.
    If it works out, City will be seeing him next season.
    O Joy.

    Trueman sez in the T&A, Danny wants to play football but we have plenty of good strikers in the building.
    We do?
    They might be in the building but they sure aren't on the pitch.
    Cook excepted, on his lonesome at the mo.
     
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    He is much much better than Chesterfield that's for sure
    If he takes this up shows how desperate he is to get out
    Something must have gone seriously wrong or are we yet again proving to be
    a "strikers graveyard"
     
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