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Danny Devine

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BradfordBanter, May 23, 2019.

  1. Mickey bantam

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    O’Donnell joined city last season because he didn’t want to play for Northampton in league 2 , so I can see him wanting to leave. Scannell will probably have his agent touting his name about because I feel he will think he’s above league2. O’Connor ,Wright ,Riley and Akpan will probably sit tight because they won’t get the money their getting at city anywhere else. Doyle I’m not sure about ,does he try get a move to another league1 club but will have to take a pay cut or does he stay here and stay on good money and try score a few and try get a move in January. Reeves is anyone’s guess , is he suffering with a mental illness and might never play again , or has GB put an arm around him and started to bring him back from the brink , only time will tell. Robinson either needs finishing or brought back and allowed to play. Other players have played whilst been out on bail whilst a police investigation is carried out so why leave him out for almost a season. Will Mellor want to go back to league 2 football or try to get a move elsewhere. He had interest from a few clubs last summer before he joined us , so he might get offers of staying in league1. Patrick should be paid off to free up a spot , it shouldn’t cost that much. Gibson’s got potential but doesn’t seem to have the right work ethic or attitude to progress into a decent player which is such a waste. Bowyers got a lot of decisions to make over this summer , let’s hope he gets them right.
     
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  2. JonButterfield

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    Interesting post @Mickey bantam@Mickey bantam.

    I'm certain Mellor will be staying, as he's done very well with Bowyer before.

    I reckon Doyle will end up staying just because we won't recoup the 350k.

    I hope you're wrong about O'Connor - never liked a City player less, he is not a Bradford City character or performer, very keen for us to do all in our power to get rid.

    Not sure we'll be able to shift Akpan, Wright or Riley, which is a big concern. Akpan is the most likely of those to prove useful. Riley is almost looking like a no hoper, and Wright is cringe worthy. Can he turn it round? Maybe, but the odds are very low.

    Reeves, as has been discussed, is an unknown but the signs don't look good.

    But there isn't one player I'm desperate to keep. As far as I'm concerned, they're all available - at least they ought to be.
     
  3. Fordy117

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    And the manager as well? Cause he's been shi&e since he's been here.

    The owner should sell because he's been sh&te since he's been here in taking the come forward.

    Point is yes last season was poor but we've to move on from it.

    Whoever is here at the start of the season is here. We've to offer a clean slate and go again.

    I would like to think because the whole team were sh&te then we can get few players in that are leaders, that have a bit of pace and strength then the players still here from last season will step up also.

    Ben Wilson gets a 3 year contract at Cov. Some others will get moves to div 1 clubs, so for me you really need to stop looking at last season on an individual front.

    Last season as a collective was a disgrace. It wasn't an individual thing and it wasn't all Edin's fault.

    It's now time for Bowyer, Rupp, Rhodes, the players to step up and its time for fans to demand better from the club.
     
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  4. BSABantam74

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    Ben Wilson should have been in ahead of O'Dozydonnell sooner! Clearly can play above our level. Not too hopeful if O'Dozy is in the firing line in the D&D League next season?
     
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  5. Fordy117

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    Hopkins fault really. He was far too loyal to certain players and got hook up on getting players out when he should of been looking to getting the best out of the team as a collective.

    We need a new keeper for sure.
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    I'm the same way that Devine should have been in sooner?

    Identical season and performances.
     
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  7. BoingBoing

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    Think you may be responding to one comment and not the dialogue I was having. This has skewed your interpretation of what I was referring to.

    I agree with you that an extra £1m isn’t generous. My point was that it will only allow us to sign 5 top quality players. And based on the performance of the majority of our current squad, we do need 5 quality signings as a minimum.

    You refer to Exeter as an example of a team that “don’t do bad at this level”. Whilst that may be true, will you (or any of our fan base for that matter) be happy to have a team in the bottom tier that are “not bad”? There may be a reason Exeter haven’t played in L1 for many a year.

    You also make a valid point about Wright and Akpan. Again, my point is that as things stand, Devine (irrelevant as to how much we are paying him), currently sits behind them and Anderson in the pecking order. Bowyer effectively said as much when he said he wants Danny to push on and try to establish himself in the team. And if Reeves becomes available, he’ll push Devine down further still. And this doesn’t even consider that Bowyer May want to bring in another central midfielder to place loanee O’Brien
     
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  8. BoingBoing

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    We do, but £1.6m of it is already accounted for with the dross that ‘played’ last season. The money is still being spent, even if we are not getting value for it
     
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  9. BoingBoing

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    You do realise that those “13k strong City crowd” don’t actually get on the pitch? Having ST/Flexi card holders, won’t give us a 12pt start...!

    Bowyer, like most fans, will be desperate to offload some of his inherited squad do he can bring in better players with the right attitudes. But it simply isn’t that easy
     
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  10. TallinnBantam

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    Like last year you mean? Shows that even having a top 4 budget means feck all if you’ve not got the correct team structure.
     
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    Bowyer has already intimated that players, clubs and agents are asking silly money.
     
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  12. BoingBoing

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    Isn’t this a contradiction? You’re telling fans to give last season’s waste-of-a-wage players another chance but then tell us we should be demanding better from the club?

    We have lots of players in our squad and I want them replacing with better. Unfortunately, this won’t be easy, but it’s what I want. No, actually, it’s what I demand from the club ...... (but we all know that fans’ demands mean NOTHING)
     
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    Wilson hasn’t proven himself yet so how you can say that he CLEARLY can play above our level is ridiculous. He conceded 4 against Posh, including one from 50yds. And didn’t he spill a simple effort in the run-in, giving a team a tap in and the points?

    Had that been O’Donnell, it would have given more like you extra ammunition to attack him. But because it was his replacement that made the gaffe, it’s forgotten about...!
     
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  14. Damo

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    Careful. Your credibility is falling rapidly
     
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  15. BoingBoing

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    Did he have any credibility to start with though? Just asking for a friend, like
    ;)
     
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  16. Bronco

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    Not sure I agree with you on that from his few cameos at the end of last season.
     
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  17. Damo

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    I was trying to be nice!
     
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  18. trevor

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    This is the problem with Edin splashing the cash around paying silly money, The agents are now expecting the same from the club and asking the same silly wages, It will take a lot of skill for GB to lower the expectations of some
     
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    Agents are approaching all teams will silly demands. It's football today.
     
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  20. YungNath

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    Bowyer was gifted the worst City squad in living memory, one that practically traumatised Hopkin with their poor attitudes and general all round ineptitude. If he kept us up he should have got the keys to the city, we were that bad. So for me, last season was his chance to look at who he wants to keep and who to try shift etc.Give him a clean slate and an actual full season to implement what he wants to implement rather than putting pressure on him immediately.

    Frankly, I think the players showed last season they don't have the stomach for a fight or the will to win. We're talking guys with multiple and in some cases successive relegations on their CVs, which tells me they're serial LOSERS. Why if you want us to be ambitious and demand more would you then say these people who've shown pretty conclusively they dont have what it takes to play for us deserve a clean slate? The onus is on them to prove themselves or get out and they not Bowyer should be taking all the crap.

    I agree we need to move on, but that requires moving the dross on and that may take time due to the ridiculous money Edin signed them on.
     
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