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Coronavirus potential to ‘shut down’ football

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Bigrod, Mar 2, 2020.

  1. Bronco

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    I'm talking about the season ticket sales for season 2019/20, not next season which are on sale now.
     
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    The club will still be looking a 500k loss which we can't afford
     
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  3. Bronco

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    Not sure how you come to that figure with only 5 home games to play, 4 if Saturdays home match is not called off.
    500k ÷ 5 = 100k per game ?.
     
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    This obviously is an easily spread virus starting in China only a few weeks ago us already all over the world yes it’s minor for most people but for some deadly the Science seems to think that the situation will ease in the summer and the NHS will be able to cope better then. So if it takes sporting events to be delayed so be it
     
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    Not sure how true this is but reportedly the EFL are having an emergency meeting which could see the season suspended and use a super-computer to determine results of the remaining matches. Sounds quite mad but could be one of the fairer options if they don't want to play games behind closed doors
     
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    Based on the what the Tranmere owner said they would lose and considering they're in div 1 relegation fight with less attendance then we stand to lose the same if not more.

    You clearly not thinking about match day sponsorship, hospitality in my mindset.

    If you want to disagree with the owner of Tranmere then fine. Maybe you should also read the YP article today @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler takked about also.
     
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    A wind up I think
     
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    See they think this because it seems that hot countries are not really getting it but they haven't really got a clue hence no vaccine.

    However, come September when Europe gets cold again they feel the outbreak will be a lot worse then now. So it's not the answer is it?

    What you going to do from September to next yesr February? Stay in the house or move to a hot country?

    This stop everything is going to ruin the economy.

    To be honest the NHS is an out of date system anyway that's on its knees without this. After all this I predicted the end of the NHS as we know it.
     
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    Lots of understandably worry about Coronavirus - but also lots of unnecessary worry

    My career, for the last 30 years has been in bacteria control in water, i.e. risk management and so as a scientist I know a little - but note all below is my 'educated' opinion (don't laugh it's usually better than my footie predictions :))

    1. Unlikely that we will suffer the grief Italy has, which of course is now spreading to their neighbouring countries
    2. To give some perspective France and Germany, which have similar populations (i.e. within 20%) currently have more than 1500 cases each
    3. Our cases are not increasing at a greatly increasing rate each day, i.e. they are not accelerating. France and Germany's are now also increasing at just a steady, if anything, decreasing rate

    Likelihood is that the cases will increase but at this steady rate for months, i.e. the growth if flatlined to a degree - making it more manageable. It's virtually impossible to prevent the spread - we will all now be reliant on the spread been gradual, so it can be better contained

    The thing that's annoying me about the neurotic media circus (witness that Rory Stewart idiot yesterday - who thinks because he's campaigning to be the London mayor - he can simply make alarming statements) is that this narrative that because Italy gained 10000 cases in a month, it's bound to happen over here.

    It isn't. Of course it might, but it's unlikely. Final number of cases could be the same - but spread over month and even years

    Hence, the current 'keep calm' government advice is a good one. Shutting grounds / banning people from meeting at work could have a disastrous effect on our well being - with little benefit

    Of course things will change, day to day and certain matches might be affected, simply because someone at that club or place had had an outbreak
     
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    100% this!

    The media are not helping right now and the government needs to stay strong.

    We need to continue our business and wash our hands.

    Football messed up with this not shaking hands rubbish.

    Sky sports and the rest are a disgrace using it as a number process. Not stopping them increasing their prices.

    The FA/Pl need to stay strong also as behind closed door games isn't the answer. If people don't want to go to games then don't go. Simple.
     
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    100,000 a game is a lot to lose even with your above examples.
    The Tranmere owner would take into account the match day attendance which as a club we already have accounted for, you say match day sponsors, just how much do you think it costs to sponcor a game £2,000 ?
    Regards hospitality yes the revenue from that would be missed but were hardly big hitters with regards hospitality.
     
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    It will be interesting how much this outbreak will set back this country as a whole. I don’t remember a health scare like this since the smallpox epidemic all those years ago
     
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    All clubs would of used up their season ticket money now.

    I don't know how he got that figure but I don't think you understand that league 1 & 2 clubs will suffer massively with behind close door games.

    Maybe he included playing wages in his figures. I don't know but Bradford City would lose a lot of money if games are postponed or behind closed doors.
     
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    Continue scaring people like it is then it will be on its knees soon and people won't be able to repay their mortgage because jobs will be cut.

    Urgently need to carry on as normal but maybe restrict movement to certain countries. Lock down the UK if it really comes to it. No one in, no one leaves.
     
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  15. Bronco

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    I would think that depends on how this virus progress, as yet the government have not started lock down in any particular areas or even sport at the moment.
    Do they follow Italy or wait and see how the virus progrees and then makes a decision on areas or ultimately the whole country.
     
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    That's my point Id think other like for like clubs generate more money from fans attending on the day than Bradford
    I dont know what % of Tranmere fans are season ticket holders but doubt it being above 60% so the other 40% pay on the gate.
     
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    Are you for bloody real?

    Carry on playing football as per normal yet stop people entering or leaving the country totally?
    You really have exceeded your your own stupidity this time!
     
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    As a non scientist, I am interested to know why you think it is unlikely that we will suffer the same acceleration as Italy. Thousands of UK citizens for example have recently returned from holiday in Italy. I work with someone who has recently returned from Sicily. Now, I know that is not exactly in the same area as the outbreak area in the North of the country, but still, it was a bit alarming to hear him coughing at work last week.

    Now I am not one for panicking, but still not sure how you can be sure we are unlikely to suffer the same as Italy within the next couple of weeks or so
     
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    Like China before it Italy had the misfortune to be hit before more about the virus was known, i.e. if we had a similar outbreak in a resort in say the Lakes, we'd now act faster, simply because we know more

    We've had around two weeks of around a similar increase per day, whilst it's of course possible that we could suddenly get the 1000 per day (that they had at one time) it's unlikely. The current cases are spread around the country, if it was in one big cluster - then that would be more worrying

    Having visited Italy more than once, I'm also of the opinion that our naturally more cautious way of interacting with each other, also counts, as does our tendency to be always 'worried well'. An Italian friend of my missus stated that it was only at the end of last week, that if finally dawned on the general public that they had to do things differently. As soon as we were told, up go the handwash gel sales etc - the difference in our cultures (I like the more emotional Italian one by the way) can again make a big difference, as contact times can be reduced

    But remember, I'm not saying we won't get 10000 cases. We could and probably will - I think they'll be spread out. Even if it's as short as 3 months (which would be more than 100 per day on average - we've had around over 60 just once and that was three days ago) it is still very manageable and whilst we will all be inconvenienced in some ways - the major disruption that Italy currently have could be avoided

    In addition, measures to limit the spread are getting discussed all the time - but thankfully they are been thought through. For instance, the sensible suggestion, which of course was political dynamite, to ban anyone over 70 from attending events, was quickly kicked into the long grass because it was it was realised that all the deaths in the UK are associated with those with serious health problems, as opposed to just age. So I'm confident, because in my experience we are very good at this in this country, that all proper precautions are been considered and will be enacted if needed

    Note, I am not complacent. As a (both very mildly) type 2 diabetic and asmastic, nearly 58 year old, I'm keeping an eye on the situation and risk assessing the situation, daily - but calmly.
     
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    Just in!! 83 case rise - which is the biggest so far. Last few days 60, 50, 52 and now 83 - but again we shouldn't be surprised

    In comparison Italy's went 4, 21, 79 and 157
     

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