COVID-19

they haven’t made a decision or an announcement about the next phase, so how do you know what the plan is?
The current phase is by age because they are more at risk than the younger people, even taking into account job roles.

if you are taking very specific people and working out their risk factor and placing them in a line you would have to risk assess every adult in the country before starting which is very time consuming and would delay things, therefore it is done by grouping people. They considered age groups and job groups and decided the age grouping was more appropriate as it gave a better coverage for those groups at risk first, obviously there are always going to be people in those groups with lower risk than those in another group, just like if they did teachers first. There will be some teachers more at risk than others due to location of school, class sizes etc which is why they are grouped

 

thanks, was just about to ask @Edin Nowhere if he could share the data that showed teachers were at a higher risk

 

That's not correct Dave. It's only the Oxford/AstraZenica vaccine that half the EU countries are declining to use on over-65s. They are vaccinating all over 65s with the Pfizer vaccine.
I think they are incorrect about the AstraZenica virus having low efficacy with older people. That's certainly not the experience here, as you say. But it's not true that they are leaving older people unvaccinated.

 

Yes I worded poorly you're correct, I was meaning with the vaccine we've had.

 

Germany seem to be having issues vaccinating quickly and they think it is leading to a third wave. The issue seems to be they bad mouthed the AstraZenica one so much no one wants it so they are left with loads of it sat in fridges. They are now trying to convince people it is good.

Sorry for the Daily Fail link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9291471/Merkel-admits-coronavirus-wave-Germany-urges-population-AstraZeneca-jab.html

 

After listening to today’s press briefing I noticed the talk of some areas being worse than others was brought up again. Maybe back to different rules for different parts of the country now London and SE aren’t the worst areas?

I had a quick look and noticed Bradford are back in the top ten worst areas along with Leicester, Bolton and Bury. Some things don’t change

 

Same shit different day.

There is a story in the T&A today about vaccination per area. It seems that the areas with the highest rates are also the areas with the lowest take up of the vaccine.

 

who would have thought it

 

Seems a new variant now in New York may be immune to the vaccines we have, Lets hope it is not true or this nightmare may well not be over any time soon

 

Was it Look North, they were saying Bradford is the only one in Yorkshire that is increasing where other areas are either staying level or dropping.

 

I hope this does not sound flippant but I think the hard part was/is getting a reliable vaccine and getting the world population injected, I would hope its just a matter of fine tuning what they have to get a vaccine that covers all.

 

Need to stop worrying about these variants. It's up to the vaccine companies to amend their designs to account for them.

 

I think the problems attached with having to give another booster is the logistics. A lot of the places doing the vaccination are temporary set ups that will have planned to be finished in 6 months time. If we are constantly planning on vaccinating the whole population every 6/12 months we need to move to a more permanent plan rather than using bits of shops, tents and other temporary structures

 

I've moved this to the covid thread because it's gone way off point.

But the Australian interconnectivity and ours will be completely different. It will be planes flying into secure airports and of much lower volume rather than lorries coming in and driving around. The whole infrastructure is different and to ignore that is r

And yes Australia internally are in a much better situation but externally they have different issues. Chasing a zero covid strategy is great in the short term but when are they going to go back to true normal and allow actual travel?

Also it brings about a different moral idea. Would you rather be a country that isolated itself and protected their own or would you rather be a country who helped to actually solve the issue for the whole world. Theres no issue with taking pride in the latter.

The tories can only be to blame for the situation in this country obviously and they have clearly made mistakes. Those mistakes have been replicated by every single Western Country though to a greater or lesser degree. It can't be presented that there is a straight line between deaths and restrictions, if there was then Sweden would have the highest toll in Europe. The fact they don't shows other external factors also come into play.

 

How many on here have had the jab? Hearing some people Poorly with it others it’s nothing more than an achey arm?

yet to have mine due to age and it doesn’t concern me one bit but just more curious how people have been when they’ve had it

 

I had mine last Sunday. AstraZenica. No after effects whatsoever.
My wife had the same jab a couple of weeks earlier and felt completely wiped out the following day and mildly so the next couple. I know of others who've had that same reaction.