COVID-19

Matt Hancock confirms nightingale hospitals put on standby in Sunderland, Harrogate and Manchester

 

You are quite correct, thankfully it is a lot slower increase this time around although I'm not sure about flat (2,783 people in hospital on the 6th October - 3,665 today) so a 33% increase.

Still better though and you're quite right that new admission don't look severe although I don't know what the timing is like on that data. It could actually lag with the testing but I have never paid much attention to that.

 

From what I've seen, admissions data gets odd minor subsequent changes but nothing significant. Nothing is certain with this lot, though!

 

I was right though. The majority DID turn down after I said they were turning until they suddenly found thousands of missing cases. They've turned down again now. Maybe they'll find even more missing cases!

 

You weren't right, you were just looking at incomplete data. Just like you were the time before that, here.

Yes the data loss made it more difficult but the issue was, is, and will always be, that if you take the latest couple of days data as gospel and follow that trend line that it will always look like it's going down. Especially after a weekend when the lower numbers from Saturday and Sunday are accounted for.

 

So Bradford has moved to no being able to see people in their gardens to being able to.

However for Hospitality you can't meet people outside your household, so why would you go? So hospitality hasn't been forced to close so can't access the support but many business will not be viable going forward.

 

So Manchester is still going up is it? It peaked on the 30th but you say it might still be going up if they add enough data. The others are only doing the same but a few days behind. Of course, I claim no certainty with this government's statistical processing.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases?areaType=ltla&areaName=Manchester

 

Usual Shambles by this Government, Not sure if result of having the virus or just stress but Boris is going noticeably bald!!

 

As normal I'll give it more time. It could be, or it could be another false "peak" like the ones at the beginning of September.

Just got to keep giving it additional time. As it showed from that earlier post even 2 to 3 weeks doesn't seem like enough time from the start of this wave.

 

Bradford praised by Whittey for it's leadership. Bullingdon Bantams won't like that!

 

Why? What’s Julian Rhodes done right?

 

It's clear various councils have had enough and told Boris where to go. Many of them were clearly asked to go to tier 3 but said no.

Who is running this country because it isn't Boris.

 

I think he is shifting the blame. If areas keep rising he will blame the councils for not going tier 3

 

It’s former Soviet resident, Comrade Cummings.

 

It's because Boris is a god dam idiot. I keep telling you he one of the worst PM ever.

 

Interesting political developments this morning. Andy Burnham saying he'd prefer a widespread national lockdown rather than regional ones and Jon Ashworth saying that the restrictions should have gone further.

I'm not too interested in the party politics of these things generally but it just interested me that the opposition were pushing from this direction whereas the mood I'm picking up from on social media, friends, etc, is that people are completely sick of the restrictions and want fewer rather than more.

 

Lockdown and restrictions only work if you are improving the testing and track & trace system. Lockdowns are a pause system to allow improvements.

Issue the government are not talking or developing improvement to these meaning people will be against the lockdown/restrictions.

Hearing that if in Tier 2 you don't get extra support from the government but you do in tier 3. This government is clueless.

 

"people are completely sick of the restrictions and want fewer rather than more"

I think you have missed the public mood here. What the people are completely sick of is the bumbling around from one restriction to the next with no clear vision. Last nights announcement seems to fall apart before it got going, Chris Whitty said tier 3 isn't enough in his actual answer to tier 3 restrictions, then the sage note were released with a host of recommendations that appear to have been ignored.

Am I happy with restrictions as they stand, ie Tier 2? Well not really because these are the restrictions that have had no effect since July, these restrictions can be moved to Tier 3 at the drop of a hat, so we have no clear vision going forward, all we can really expect in Bradford is to bounce between Tier 2 and Tier 3 until something come to superceed these restrictions.

That puts me agreeing with Andy Burnham, just get it done, take the October Half term as a two week circuit breaker with a blanket ban on pretty much everything, then come out the other side with a proper test and trace when the virus hasn't had the ability to freely spread for 2 weeks.

 

Agree. We can’t get there with 7 months worth of planning and billions thrown away on private contracts. We’ve no chance unless the government give it back to local authorities like I said form the word go. I swear, If we have invested even a quarter of that money into local authorities track and tracers who are already set up in most places, we would have got better results

 

I'm not sure. People seem more worried about their jobs and their mental health rather than actually getting the virus.

And I do kinda get that but like the simplistic view of "just test and trace better" I'm not sure whether a two week lockdown solves any more issues than the tiered approach and in a similar way doesn't go far enough. Chris Whitty is right, from a purely scientific point of view - which is obviously the angle he's coming from - only proper lockdown works and we know this but there's obviously other aspects in play.

If it was just 2 weeks of lockdown and then everything is back to normal(ish) I think everybody would go for it but that seems too easy and the first 2 weeks of the March lockdown didn't solve anything. My worry with the "circuit breaker" thing is that it would be continually on/off rather than it being done once and then it's over. It will be interesting to see how Scotland get on.