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Club Crest (New Crest Revealed 5 October 2022) With Poll

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dratsab taf, Sep 16, 2022.

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Do you like the new Bantam logo

  1. yes

    29 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. no

    96 vote(s)
    60.4%
  3. what's a Bantam ?

    5 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Prefer current one

    29 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. Frank Castle

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    Remove the shield. Keep the bantam but flip it so it's facing left. Put a football under the lifted leg. Adjust the size of the lettering, stick it underneath the bantam and alternate the colouring. Then I think we're on a path of getting something that is acceptable,,,

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  2. Stafford Bantam

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    This is the original City Gent badge:
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    The later versions looked like this (with various alternative kits):
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  3. YungNath

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    enamel pins aren't the be all and end all in this world
     
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  4. TallinnBantam

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    Dunno why they don’t use the existing 1903 logo. It’s not bad, fits on pin ok too. In those colours, it doesn’t look TOO much like a hawk holding and antler! Actually…now I can’t unsee it!
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  5. XCIV_Bantam

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    got some hot takes here,

    1) this does need to happen, I can't imagine everyone has read the doc listing the reasons why it needs changing. but if you have a minute I would recommend doing so.
    2) they will most likely carry on with it because it does need to happen
    3) genuinely to me - it just comes across as people thinking we don't need to change nor do they want to change the badge...

    I remember the times where everyone was saying the club had no "ambition" saying that we need to generate more revenue and act like a "big club". Recently we have seen some changes that most "big clubs" have in place, yet people still moan. its just constant. Loyalty points - to generate higher attendances and more revenue to the club, was made out to be a scheme where the biggest fans accurately get the tickets they deserve instead of what it actually is. A mechanism to reward the fans who spend the most. People were moaning about WAGMI saying rupp was purposefully not selling up as he hated the club. look how that turned out. now people are moaning about a badge that frankly does need updating.

    this is "big club" mentality, it is ambitions and its exactly what we need for this club.

    personally for me, there was a modified version on twitter that had the star on the bantam and 1903 on the bottom. looked really nice in my opinion.

    its the little things that all come together to make sure we go up and stay up.
     
  6. Areyoureadingthisedin

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    Have a look at Aston Villa - similar and being handled far better imo
     
  7. trevor

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    No two ways about it. It's sheite
     
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    Someone on twitter put all fans versions and clubs together - you can’t tell
     
  9. millario

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    It's not what you know, but who you know. Rumour has is it there's a crate of Apple Sourz in there somewhere. We'll find 'em.
     
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    Have they managed to consistently get it onto shirts and merch though? Or have they a lot of the time just got something that's close to it? Take the Pin Badge for sale on the official site that I posted above, its not the same logo as is on the packaging. Look at the embroidered logo on one of the older kits that the Supporters pack shows, its not the same logo. The Sticker on one of the clubs mini-busses again isn't the same.
     
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    While the football certainly looks better than having nothing under the foot, it has the issue of the current one and that's the dimensions. With the Shield and the text alongside while not perfect in dimensions is much closer (especially if you take the star off. Without the shield maybe the best bet is for the text to be at the side of the Bantam as it would allow for the dimensions to be made a bit more user-friendly

    Either something like
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    or

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    What purpose do they even serve?? A couple of badge collectors might want them but in the grand scheme of things, is it an important factor in justifying a badge redesign??! We can’t sell more than a few hundred, surely!
     
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    Except most people responding to me are disputing the rationale. I've already said in my first post about this that there are issues with the proposed one but people keep responding to me with a 'We don't need to change, its worked for 30 years
     
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    There are countless club crests with very similar dimensions, Liverpool and Spurs are two that jump to my mind immediately. I think the issue is much smaller than you're making out.
     
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    I've used enamel pins as ONE example in addition to the ones the club have talked about plus as I've mentioned before how the dimensions of the current one cause issues but no you will choose to act like its all about one thing which isn't important when that one thing is just an example of the bigger branding and merchanding issue. Branding and Merch in modern football is important because its the branding and merchandise that allows clubs to pay the ridiculous wages the kind of players you need for success demand.

    But no keep acting like the current badge is amazing and that the only issue with it is in a single small area that doesn't matter.

    (Oh and BTW Pins and Keyrings are some of the cheapest pieces of merch clubs produce and also some of the cheapest items for people to buy. They are also some of the best sellers because it's the kind of thing that when someone visits the club it's either a cheap memento for themselves or a cheap thing to pick up to give to people back home. It's also the kind of thing where if people are on the official online shop looking for small trinkets to buy as a gift they gravitate to. It's why if you go to somewhere like a Disney park they have so many options for both pins and keyrings and refresh them so often, not to mention regularly doing single-day pins)
     
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    It was a great Tetleys pub in the day always a bit of a dump but in our younger days we just went in for the beer not the clientele.
     
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    The latter :thumbup:
     
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    Here is an example of where its a problem from Spurs own site

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    Notice how poor the alignment is on all of the matches because of the Spurs logo's dimensions. And these kinds of things spill over outside the club when 3rd parties need to use the logo, especially commercial partners. It doesn't even need to be exactly equal, it's better when it is but being a little taller or wider than equal wouldn't be noticeable but with both a star and the initials under the logo like you have it then the difference is significant. It's why even with the proposed one from the club IMHO the star needs to be in the shield not above it
     
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