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Can we get out of this mess in January ....

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by king karl, Nov 28, 2020.

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Will January change our fortunes

  1. yes we will buy some quality players and climb the table

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  2. we will buy a few quality players and be safe when injured players return

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  3. We will sign dross but just stay up

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  4. We will sign dross and get relegated

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  1. TheNorf

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    We were in a similar position around this time in Stuarts first season in charge of us, I seem to recall we signed Lee Bullock in January and our midfield got a bit tougher and gave the defence some more protection. I wonder if he might be tempted to do something similar this time, albeit hopefully not Lee Bullock again.
     
  2. Bigrod

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    Well it seems utterly bizarre if anyone who is in the senior squad under the age of 22, salary doesn’t count towards the total £1,500,000 wage ceiling. Based on that premise, if we had 22 players age 22 and over, we can pay them up-to £68,181, but that sum to include any bonus. So the actual salary would have to be set lower than that figure, so they could earn that sum as a total maximum.
    Have you (or anyone else) got a link to this bit of ‘sleight by procedure’ of the EFL.
     
  3. Jordan

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    Link to the EFL rules over squad registration and you'll need section 43.9 -> https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/

    BT sport did a break down but all news outlets did really -> https://www.bt.com/sport/news/2020/august/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-efl-salary-caps

    But yeah, if you wanted to trust your team to youths, you could have a team of lads under 22 and your salary cap would be nothing. There were a few chairman slagging it off publicly, but not many voted it down....
     
  4. Dennis

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    I suspect you're getting confused between Squad Lists which are new this season and Matchday Squads requirements which have been around for several seasons. Having a Club Developed Player (as they are known) who came through the club's academy is still a requirement for the matchday squad. Having a specific CDP in the Squad List isn't a requirement but this hasn't been dropped since Squad Lists were only introduced in the EFL this season.
     
  5. Biker

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    It’s not a fascination , it’s an important role in a team sport.

    Do ‘real leaders’ (how are they different to fake ones? ) need a manager on the sideline or have they got that part nailed too.

    This ive got eleven leaders rubbish gets us in the shit we are now.
     
  6. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
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    Do you think the likes of Jones or McCall's performances were influenced by whether or not they wore the armband? No, because they're natural leaders who lead by example regardless of the captain title. If our players need the title and an armband to step up and lead then they're in the wrong sport. O'Donnell being captain is the least of our worries, if it even is one at all.
     
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  7. Ulysses S Grant

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    Lets start with AOC & BRE. If both are on £4k a week (which is possible given the timing of their signing) then 26 weeks at £8k is £208,000. That's got to be a price worth paying surely ?
     
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  8. Ulysses S Grant

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    I did, but given what you've dug up he sounds like a nightmare we don't need.
    I'm sure I read somewhere that transfer fees and agents fees DO count towards it, but could be wrong or have misread it.
     
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  9. Biker

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    Eh?

    It’s not about influencing their performances, it’s about influencing others.
     
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  10. borderlescott

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    Its not along term signing is it. All we can look at is free agents until Jan.

    The question needs looking at from another angle if you think we shouldnt sign more ex players. The question you and Stuart need to ask is “are they better than what we have”?

    is Morais better than DMH and Ismael?
     
  11. bantam2708

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    What and they need a piece of cloth around their arm to be able to do that?
     
  12. Keefly Bantam

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    Re Ismail we will never find out. I think his career may soon be over.

    As for DMH. My sofa is better than him.
     
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    The problem is Mcall wouldn’t know a good player if it hit him in the face - lets face facts here - he gave DMH a contract - I rest my case.
     
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  14. borderlescott

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    When he offered DMH a new contract did anyone else thing it was as a squad player, but not one we’d be calling upon regularly?

    it’s worrying that we have loads of players like him - and BRE, Sutton, Donaldson and Guthrie - that shouldnt be anywhere near the starting XI, yet we are now banking on them for survival.
     
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  15. Keefly Bantam

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    Gulp.
     
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  16. Biker

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    We need a new skipper who influences play and leads on the pitch by example, a goalie can’t do that from the sticks 30 yards back.
     
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  17. bantam2708

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    Tell that to the likes of Neuer and Lloris, you know the last two captains to lift the Champions League and World Cup.
     
  18. Fordy117

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    In a team full of leaders.
     
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  19. Biker

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    You still banging on about it! Out of interest how many keepers are skippers in L1 and L2, I’ve no idea how many but would be interested.
     
  20. Ulysses S Grant

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    Wasn't Shilton England captain in italia 90
     
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