Brexit

You realise that toyota are only investing our money - its a bung!

 

These companies have always been "helped" by previous governments to stay in the UK every country does it.

 

If you cant see the contradiction between what you originally stated and the fact that its a bung then wow.

 

This original statement : Not every foreign company jumping ship and investing elsewhere, it's true both companies could have gone abroad many on here were claiming that is what would happen after we left the EU, the last time I looked Nissan were investing and staying in Sunderland and Ford were investing at Halewood along with Toyota investing in Derbyshire, as I posted there have always been sweeteners for foreign companies to invest abroad be that the UK or the EU.

 

Which has happened to lots of companies except those who have received public money. Its not that they chose to stay here is it? they have been paid to. Hardly a positive and certainly a negative as if it wasnt for brexit no bung would be needed.

Not that I expect you to see that contradiction though.

 

Don't the EU provide subsidies for companies to invest in their countries too? Suppose that would be different to a bung though?

 

I posted similar but he does not seem to be able to accept bungs/subsides happen within the EU, but then again he wouldn't would he.

 

You made the claim they stayed despite brexit. When in fact they stayed because they had an incentive that wouldnt be needed prior.

 

Irrelevant

The argument isnt about what the EU does and doesnt do. Its about the contradiction in his statement. Which you conveniently avoided and spun some shite like you always do.

 

I said they were quite happy to stay and invest when many remainers were telling us foreign companies would not want to stay and would pull their businesses out of the UK.

 

Agreed that is what you said.

However its not what they have done is it. They havent invested they have taken public money and invested that. It is hardly a benefit of brexit is it?? Seen as though without brexit they wouldnt have needed the public money.

If you cant see the contradiction in terms then you are falling into the realm of "didnt know what he was voting for".

 

Sorry..I was just trying to figure out when things were bungs and things were subsidies.

If the EU (and elsewhere) give subsidies then it would surely be logical for us to do it too, otherwise we wouldn't be competitive?

 

So do you believe the figures quoted in the articles with regards investment have come from the UK government, I very much doubt it there may have been some inducement but as said many governments do it.
Many companies who located in the UK before we left did so with financial help from past British governments, so I'm not sure your patronising comment is true but if you feel better for quoting it enjoy your moment.

 

Youre starting a whole different conversation.

Did Toyota invest in the UK or did the UK invest in the UK? Thats the question

Bronco stated that these companies decided to stay and invest in the UK. In the instance of Toyota its untrue as the article states it was a bung. Therefore we invested in the UK. Its not a consequence of a stable UK outside the EU like he was stating. Its a consequence of an unstable UK which needed to prop up its industries where before it needed not to.

 

I dont understand the point you are trying to make. Think you need to rewrite that post.

 

Not sure how you come to that conclusion from my original comment : "Not every foreign company jumping ship and investing elsewhere".

 

Its not difficult to understand.

 

Is it a different debate?

Do any companies truly invest anywhere or are they all attracted by what can be offered?

Isn't it the same debate?

The point I'm sure Bronco was raising is that we were told that all these companies would go. They haven't. Isn't it that simple?

 

Thanks I was starting to worry that it was not plain enough to take in, that many multinational companies would leave the UK if we voted to leave the EU, that has not been the case, Bronco awaits the comments with regards the big red bus.

 

Sure, if you do your jedi mind tricks it does work out like that.