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Brexit

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Park bantam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Ashton

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    Well I didn’t say that, but you’ll say I did anyway. I’m done with this back-and-forth. Enjoy your day.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    Bless you, you've just done what all remain voters have been doing since they lost the vote. Oh the irony in your post...
    And no i won't enjoy my day, well i will till 3 o'clock this afternoon when it will all go tits up.
     
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  3. Bronco

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    So you believe the vote in 1975 carries any resemblace to the last vote, if you do then your correct there is absolutely no point in trying to devate the issue.
    With reagards people knowing more about the present situation as they have more infornation it changes on a weekly basis, even Mark Carney has changed his oinion originally saying it woud be a disaster.
    Just to add within my circle of friends and relations not one has changed their opinion with regards how they. voted.
     
  4. trevor

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    Poor Remainers, All that money spent trying to convince us to remain much more than Leave, All the government leaflets begging us to stay, The mainstay media hugely biased in favour of remain especially the BBC and of course the likes of george soros spending his millions now on a second referendum, And yet most of the public are not fooled and know that brexit is the right option for jobs and prosperity long term, It has been a long process but the EU continues to drain this countries wealth to support the EU
     
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  5. Rogered Tart

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    All coaches going to London is quite possibly one of the most embarrassing things i've ever seen, like a petulant child stamping their feet because they didn't get the ice cream they were promised. The sheer utter contempt that these people have for anyone who dares to disagree with their rhetoric, well over 17.4 million voters did vote against your views. This march is nothing more than bullying and intimidation tactics against the wishes of the majority of the voters who turned out. Our democratic process is finished if we go against the majority in a vote.
     
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  6. Tony Wilkinson

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    Where do all these morons come from....?
    I have never in my life known anybody, family or friends, that would ever give a thought to going on a march/demo etc
    It must be like a religion to them, nobody cares about their stupid banners that are usually sponsored by the likes of 'socialist worker' (as if...!!) or the like....
     
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    Its bemusing isn't it. When i voted in the referendum, i went to bed not knowing the result but not caring a jot. Had i woke up and found the result of the vote was a reverse of the actual vote i would have accepted that the people of this country had voted to remain. None of this jumping on coaches to the big smoke to wave around their 'offended' banners lol. At what point does this madness end? If Labour win the next Election (heaven forbid with comrade Corbyn in charge) do the all the voters who voted against Labour just get on buses to London and stamp their feet till they get what they want? This isn't how a democratic process works.
     
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  8. trevor

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    If Corbyn wins we should have another vote just like he wants for Brexit, Its only fair
     
  9. Berkshire-bantam

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    Cornyn wouldnt win. I know a lot of labour voters, that have always voted labour, that wouldn't vote Labour now... just because he is in charge
     
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  10. Hulmebantam

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    I'm a moron :innocent:

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  11. Tony Wilkinson

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    You said it....didn't know we had sooo many teachers..!!
    Just have a look at yourselves.....
     
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  12. trevor

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    Shows how far as a nation we have fallen when these people would put the EU before before their own, Embarrassing
     
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    As ever, you wilfully misunderstand the Remainer viewpoint.
    These people passionately believe that keeping their country in the EU is putting their country first. They believe that cutting ourselves adrift from the world's most powerful trading bloc is an act of economic madness which will hamstring our successors for generations to come.

    You may disagree with them, but rest assured that they find the isolationist (and, in some cases, xenophobic) Brexiteer outlook to be every bit as embarrassing as you find their views.
    Most of the rest of the the world views us as collectively insane to even contemplate leaving the collective strength of the EU. Whenever I go abroad I'm deeply embarrassed when asked by people from other countries why we have lost control of our senses.

    The nation is hopelessly split down the middle. Remainers are sincerely fighting for their children's future wellbeing just as Brexiteers believe that they are doing.

    Whichever way this ends up, it's a catastrophe. If we don't Brexit then the narrow winners of a three year old, non-binding, snapshot vote will never shut up about their 'democratic' choice being thwarted by the establishment.

    But simple demographics ensures that any majority for Brexit will be short lived, as older Brexit voters die and new, overwhelmingly Remain voters join the electorate. Several polls suggest that has already happened. So Brexiteers will forever be in the minority going forward. They will be blamed for every economic problem in the future, whether or not caused by Brexit, just as Brexiteers erroneously blame the EU for our own economic mismanagement.
     
  14. Park bantam

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    All opinion. Polls shows the nation has changed its mind on Brexit. If there was a new vote now I think there would be a landslide. I believe the right wingers in the Tories have messed up their opportunity now by not supporting thedeal on the table. By next week we will be closer to staying in the custom union or perhaps not leaving at all
     
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  15. Bronco

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    Unfortunately I have to agree with you, but that was not what was on offer was it ?


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  16. Park bantam

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    Unfortunately it’s split the country in half and there a lot of major issues being ignored in the country by government because every thing is about this. We need to get it sorted one way or another and move on
     
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  17. trevor

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    I understand remainers completely, They believe that staying in the worlds most protectionist market will protect them from the variances of world trade, It will not the EU is a dying organisation long term that is weighed down with debt and cannot even balance its books it just asks for more money which eventually the 3 major nations will refuse to fund as it strips national funding as it has ours over many years, Brexiteers are outward looking wanting to trade with all nations as a confident member of the world, I voted leave but have always believed and posted that the rich and powerful of the UK and the EU would do everything in there power to stop it, There is to much at stake for the rich of the EU not to stop it.
     
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    Notice even the ballot sheet was rigged in remains favour, Traditionally it should be in alphabetic order but it was reversed to put remain at the top as it always gets more share of votes
     
  19. Offcomedun

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    Ha! You cannot be serious! Rigged in Remain's favour is a joke. The ballot was totally skewed in Brexit's favour. Because ''leave" wasn't defined it meant that everyone's personal vision got counted together as though they were the same thing. So those who just wanted to register a protest vote against politicians (which was many), those who were undecided but were persuaded that we would save £350m pw for the NHS, and those who believed Johnson's lies that we could stay in the single market and customs union but stop free movement and annual payments, all got counted as the same as those who wanted to leave at any cost. That's like saying every vote cast against the sitting government in a GE counts for the official opposition party, regardless of which party they are cast for.
    The idea that the referendum was a democratic exercise is a sick fallacy. When people vote in a GE they know what each party stands for and they can read their manifesto if they want more detail. In the referendum there was no detail of what Brexit meant, so everyone got to vote for their own personal fantasy unicorn.
     
  20. Offcomedun

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    Dream on. You like to believe that the EU is dying, but reports of its demise are greatly exaggerated, like most of the nonsense written about the EU in this country. We are going through a phase of regressive populism at the moment but it won't last. The experience of Brexit is, unsurprisingly, increasing support for the EU on the continent.
    You want to turn us into an unreconstructed ultra-Thatcherite low tax economy. The lessons of the past thirty years are lost on you. All that does is make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Which is why we are the most economically unequal country in Europe.
     

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