Brexit

If that makes you feel better about Brexit then OK

The growing class of the tory/brexit voters is astonishing.

 

it doesn’t make me feel better, I just think a lot of stuff is blamed on Brexit when it could have been avoided. It isn’t as if it was a sudden surprise.

 

One of the ways that this issue could be solved would be the reduction of red tape which is insisted on by the EU when dealing with any 3rd party country. That would help everybody.

Would have been interested to know a bit more detail from the guy to be honest. Where the items were stuck, how long they've been stuck for, why it can't get through.

 

I think you forget we voted to leave not the other way round.

 

Except it was because everyone was left in limbo until december the 25th and given 6 days to prep. Not one person here knew what the deal would be so neither did this guy and the poor lass that is suffering from having open back surgery.

Seems like you are trying to defend the indefensible to me.

 

seems like you are trying to defend stupid. Yes the exact details were bot known but if it was me I would have been trying to sort it before the end of last year because it was unknown

 

Corrected for you

 

No, I'm not forgetting that.

I'm talking about solutions to make trade more free. Which I believe we agree is a good thing?

If trade is difficult in and out of the EU then looking at ways to improve that would be a positive, no?

 

What qualifies you as a person who knows the ins and outs of this particular situation? How do you know he left it too late? you dont.

If you want to be pedantic and miss the overall point then you have to consider how that pedantry is basically making you state that people prior to brexit could get wheelchair parts for their disabled children but as a result of brexit they now cannot.

Which way do you want it? either its his fault he made the order too late and as a result of brexit he can no longer get parts. Or its not his fault and it is the fault of government and the idea of brexit itself which causes these issues which people should just admit so that they can be solved and move on.

You cannot have your cake and eat it. Brexit has its long term downsides. Denial, with a few likes from your cronies in here makes that reality no less real.

 

the reality is that everyone knew that delays would happen as the new system kicked in. So if people didn’t factor that in when trying to sort things before hand then it is their fault.

As for the specifics as they didn’t go into it all as they were just on the radio making a point with no deep questioning then yes a lot is left to personal presumption but unfortunately as they haven’t given any more details we have to

 

Some details on the hold ups would definitely be beneficial in this case.

If my daughter was disabled and an item which improved her quality of life was delayed I doubt I'd take a one word explanation of "Brexit" from the transport company. I'd want to know the details about where it was and what could be done to overcome it. It seems a very basic and glib response to something that is quite serious.

 

Interesting article but we need to properly understand how things have changed since Brexit.

If goods are being held at the border then its very likely down to incorrect information included in the customs declaration, no declaration at all or the person receiving the goods is not prepared to pay any import duties. Potential import duties are now applied from EU countries whereas pre Brexit it was effectively the rest of the world. So the EU are now treated the same as the rest of the world.

For most people the "red tape" is a simple form stuck on the consignment/package and this form is usually presented at the point of transit purchase for the seller so they should know they need to complete a customs declaration.

Basically anyone importing goods from any country into GB have to make a full import declaration for goods valued over £900. This can be done either by the company shipping the item using the Governments systems or by the buyer using an established agent here in the UK. eg www,bifa.org

For goods valued between £135-£900 a simple written declaration is attached to the package by the seller and potential duties are imposed upon import payable by the buyer.

For goods under £135 no duties are payable but a simple declaration is attached to the package.

I sent some papers to Canada last year and had to attach a customs declaration form which took a few mins to complete.

I agree there is some "additional red tape" but it is usually human error by the shipper or the buyer when goods cannot pass the border-unless the items are prohibited or are selected for a random customs check. And that has been the case for years long long before BREXIT was even a twinkle in Camerons eye.

 

My company booked 4 different shipments for collection from European suppliers round about the middle of January. So far we have only received one. We import pallet loads rather than full containers. The explanation from our shippers is that it doesn't matter that our paperwork is all in order. If just one consignment on the trailer is non-compliant the whole trailer gets held

 

I can understand that. If a container gets stopped it would be the whole container as the paperwork isn’t right for the whole container. Customs aren’t going to go through and seperate out what belongs to which person.

 

Yup. That's how I understand it. Plus from what I undestand there are some many non- compliant consignments that if they unloaded them all it wouldbe an even bigger nightmare. Schenkers the German freight company suspended all shipments to the UK for a week in January. I think they said at the time up to 70% were non-compliant

 

There you go and yet the guy in question is still at fault in your eyes i guess. not the policy.

 

where did i say who was to blame. I was just commenting on why the whole container had been stopped.

maybe you should try reading things as they are written rather than you putting a slant on them.

 

I have to say the EU's present 'performance' has to be seen as a Godsend by Boris.

After the farce that has been the management of Coronavirus in both lockdowns and the period in between, he really needed a bit of polish on the ol' Brexit. He's getting it with the disastrous fumbling the EU has made on the issue of vaccines.

Still, the vaccines issue actually isn't a Brexit issue at all, as we could have still been in the EU and seen things play out in just the same manner. We didn't have to sign up to the EU27 Covid vaccine scheme, and we probably wouldn't have with Big Boz in charge.

But it's a great case study in something that the EU has simply got wrong, both in practice and in terms of the PR surrounding it.

I wouldn't be too surprised if this was pushing further countries towards EU exits, whether they're a good idea or not.

 

The mess the EU commission and bureaucrats have made over the vaccines is typical of the way the EU works on most things, Dither and delay trying to get 27 to agree, We are well out of it

 

Isn't February 28th the deadline day for the EU countries to ratify the withdrawal agreement, it will be an interesting few weeks, there are several issues that need fine tuning going forward, like the stupid ban on UK shell fish, we're supplying the same sea food as we did prior to the 31st December the EU are playing silly buggers and IMO we need to play the EU at the same game, if they dont relax this and the other pathetic rules like lorry drivers not being able to take a sandwich over the channel.