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Brexit/Politics/BBC/Falling out of Love!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Loyalbantam, Oct 6, 2021.

  1. Storck

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    Didn't furlough end at end of September?
     
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    Been reading what you have been saying and all i can say is, what a load of tosh.

    Brexit has had a massive impact on HGV drivers. Reasons why...

    1. a massive load of them left to back to the eu
    2. we didnt train enough of our own to replace them. If we transitioned properly instead of in the middle of a pandemic maybe we could have had those people in place.
    3. we cant get the people over from the EU to work here now we need them. The number one reason is the mess of red tape and need for a passport which not many EU HGV drivers have. So they take up work in the EU where their own shortages mean the jobs available are more attractive than they are here.

    Brexit is to blame for both the loss of HGV drivers and the fact we cant get them to come back.

    You say we can train our own people to do jobs that the unemployed of europe were doing. Why? why should we train our people to be fruit pickers, or any low skilled job for that matter. We should be pushing our population into vocational work and further education in order to actually create a high skilled workforce with a high productivity.

    The tide has finally turned and its been very enjoyable watching you bleat about brexit, clutching at those final straws with statements like its still 51 to 49. People like you will always be brexiteers and thats fine but you will be the 1 in 10 you were before the BBC gave the minority view of leaving the eu parity with the majority view of remaining. Thats the same BBC that you hate which without would have not won the referendum.

    Brexit is crumbling the UK, we are an embarrassment and its making people poorer. Any benefits you think will happen are just hopes, theres no solid evidence they will come. A true patriot wouldn't let his/her ideals get in the way of something which is actually harmful to the country.
     
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  3. Tony Wilkinson

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    Hey up, he's back.....what did you think of our performance yesterday at Newport
    NB, This is not The Guardian letters page, think before you post eh..?
     
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  4. trevor

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    Amusing is the best I can say on this post, It lacks any serious points
     
  5. trevor

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    Ended September but paid a month in arrears so employers can claim till October 28th I believe so those on furlough will be looking for work soon or back to work fully with existing employer
     
  6. Storck

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    ah. I thought it ended at end of September but the employers were paid back in arrears. So the last day that can be claimed for was 30th September but the employees may not fet the cash back till end of October. So all people that were on furlough are no longer being paid by government
     
  7. Clity

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    lacks any serious points?

    You are just making a fool of yourself more and more every day. Keep it up.
     
  8. trevor

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    Keep Digging that hole you may find some sense eventually,
     
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  9. trevor

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    BBC bosses have at last recognised what many have said about the BBC having an anti Brexit and the right to its reporting and news programmes, They are now organising courses in fairness and balance for its broadcast staff, I suppose better late than never although some should be sacked they have had that many warnings of unfairness that seem simply ignored
     
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  10. Storck

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    the review had nothing to do with Brexit though. It was due to the Princess Diana interview.
    Both sides complain about bias from the BBC
     
  11. trevor

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    It is due to a large amounts of complaints of bias reporting not only the Diana interview
     
  12. Storck

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    Strange how it was only done after the independent investigation into the Diana interview.
     
  13. trevor

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    Yes wrapped up with the Diana thing as did not want to admit a separate investigation, This will be a matter of sending reporters on training courses not an investigation after many complaints and having to give written warnings to certain reporters, I gather Emily Maitless has now had 2 warnings for bias reporting
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52824508
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8360695/Emily-Maitlis-states-fact-Dominic-Cummings-broke-rules.html
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15412989/emily-maitlis-slapped-bbc-sharing-piers-morgan-tweet-government/
     
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  14. Storck

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    Yep it is to make sure they do not have too many fringe view points on as well, so more main stream rather than mad as hatter right/left wing loons, conspiratory theorist etc. To be honest I can see the right wing of politics getting less coverage after this
     
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    The Government and ministers have refused to appear on Newsnight for awhile now due to the bias against it the programme has especially after appointing Lewis Goodall as Policy editor as he is well known for his pro Labour left wing links and anti government stance
     
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  16. Storck

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    The have refused to appear because they can not take being questioned rather than given a free ride. They need to grow a pair
     
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    If I remember rightly The last time on they had one Tory government minister against a presenter and 3 Labour supporters and said it would not allow that again as they accused Newsnight of ambushing them, They have also refused to appear on the Today BBC radio programme, The do appear on every other news programmes on BBC channel for news and reporting such as ITV news and SKY and GBNewsas well as other radio stations so not exactly hiding away, They just expect fairness and respect not bias reporting whether true or perceived
     
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  18. Storck

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    As I said they need to grow a pair
     
  19. Dennis

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    Are you now agreeing that the BBC so-called bias is simply as perceived by the Govt or more particularly Nadine Dorries rather than it having any substance?

    If the Govt is concerned about bias by the BBC, why do they appear on a regular basis on the Andrew Marr programme? That was a BBC current affairs programme the last time I watched it. In fact, it was only a few weeks ago that the PM was interviewed by Marr. It was a typical Johnson interview, lots of bluster and much guffawing but with lkitle substance. Marr had to remind him several times that the PM was in the studio to respond to questions about the Govt's policies. The PM certainly didn't take kindly to that.

    Similarly, the Govt, and the PM in particular run scared from being interviewed by Nick Robinson on the Today programme. Robinson doesn't take any shit. In a recent interview on the Today programme, he pursued the PM to 'answer the question' repeatedly but unfortunately never received a meaningful response. And for the record, Robinson was a Parliamentary candidate for the Conservative party and remains a member of the party.

    It's a poor showing for democracy when the Govt of the day won't appear on BBC flagship news programmes because they don't like their decisions and actions being scrutinised by respected journalists. It suggests that their policies are flakey.

    As @Storck@Storck says, they need to grow a pair.
     
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