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Match Thread Away vs Swindon Town Sat Oct 23rd @3.00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Carts #CTID, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. banbrotam

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    It's great that some fans have a new hero in Vernam, but I've noticed that they seem blindsided to all lot of his weaknesses.

    I've noticed he often fades, very quickly, if his play isn't yielding results. His fitness is also terrible. For me, he's a bit of a lightweight luxury, who although is probably our most skilful player - can rarely perform for a full 90 minutes.

    Oh! I do think he's good - but puzzled as to everyone seems to think that he should escape any responsibility after Tuesday. Numerous times, he basically bottled out of taking on a player - when in the first half against Bristol Rovers he had no such negative thoughts.

    Gilliead, who basically is clearly asked to do a lot of the dirty midfield work gets abused because basically, he's more of a team player. His natural game sacrificed, but he still at least tries to make things happen.

    I trust Adams, more than the knockers on these boards.
     
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  2. Lancashire Bantam

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    I don’t know if I should thank you or not.
     
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  3. Bantamsteve

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    Is that after Gillead starts
     
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  4. banbrotam

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    Vernham was also rubbish on Tuesday. But continues to get all his negative play, i.e. refusing to take a player on when he's not in the mood, terrible 2nd half fitness etc - because he 'looks' a players.

    Gilliead is asked to perform a role, that perhaps doesn't get the best out of him - with Songo'o hardly playing in midfield, one of the attackers has to come back and do the dirty work in midfield. Consequently, Gilliead is simply out of position and then makes wrong decisions.

    Either could have been dropped. I just don't see why it's so obvious that Vernam shouldn't have been
     
  5. Idlebantam

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    I think you have got them two mixed up, reading that
     
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  6. banbrotam

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    Is Gillihead the new player certain fans love to hate? I wonder how much of that is to do with him been part of our relegation team?
     
  7. Idlebantam

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    Look at their assists and goals so far this season, and then maybe have a re-think
     
  8. banbrotam

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    We all see the game in different ways.

    Clearly Adams, doesn't see the game in the same way that you do.
     
  9. Botswana Bantam

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    Exactly
     
  10. WilsdenBantam

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    He wasn’t in our relegation team?? Vernam was poor Tuesday like everyone else but he at least offers goal threat. A luxury in this team.
     
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    Any comment with regards Cooke missing or we just assume he's injured.
     
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    No.It’s to do with him failing to have any impact on the game week after week bar a tap in 4 games ago.
     
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  13. WilsdenBantam

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    Got a double on Swindon and Celtic, don’t like doing it but odds to good to turn down. Happy for the bet to come in, well as long as it’s not Celtic who let it down…
     
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  14. Bantamsteve

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    No mate I don't live in the past
    He has been dreadful this season
     
  15. banbrotam

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    I'm not disputing that Vernam has been good. I'm asserting that he is more inconsistent. Now you may argue, that we'll take inconsistency if we get a brilliant performance, once every three of four matches. My argument, is that actually we don't need to have to rely on that - there are other players / shape of team available.

    After all Vernam has played in virtually every match - so surely must be just as responsible for our admittedly frustrating position.

    On a positive note, I back Adams to make him a better and more consistent player
     
  16. Idlebantam

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    Adams has clearly got a good managerial record, however, that doesn't mean he is right with every opinion and selection. I would dearly love to know what he thinks Gilliead brings to the table because I am not alone in wondering what the hell it is, especially compared to Vernam
     
  17. banbrotam

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    Apologies. I mean he was one of the new players (after his loan) who were brought in by Rahic after the play-off final season. Inevitably, a lot of those players were quick to get criticised and very few of them were given much of a chance by fans, frustrated by the lack of investment in 'real' players.

    Fact is some judge him on the naive 21 year old he was as opposed to his last couple of seasons, when he was seen as vital for the likes of Scunthorpe - who speak fondly of him.

    I'm not here to excuse Gilliead, who was also rubbish on Tuesday. It's simply not obvious that Vernam is demonstrably better.
     
  18. bantam2708

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    You've been watching games with your eyes closed if you don't think its obvious that Vernam is better than Gilliead. It isn't even close.
     
  19. bailiff bridge bantam

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    On recent form,goals and assists it simply is.
     
  20. Bantamsteve

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    Had a good bet on Swindon 6/4 happy either way
     
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