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American Election

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Frank Castle, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. YungNath

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    Again I dont think he can feel too hard done by or that he's being treat unfairly, given the outrageously free ride they've let him have over the prior four years and arguably at times before that also. I also think you're still putting an unfair onus on them to act impartially . If they want to favour someone then that's entirely up to them as a private entity. They aren't a regulatory body or a government agency so provided it isn't illegal which banning someone from twitter for spurious reasons isn't, I don't think its that deep
     
  2. trevor

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    It will be interesting going forward because social media like Twitter and Facebook avoid prosecution for any posts on their sites claiming they are exempt because they are only a facility for views of others without control and not a publisher which could be liable for its content and may be sued or even prosecuted by the Law agencies, Lawyers are now claiming that by editing and deleting posts that may be distasteful but not illegal Twitter are exercising editorial control and as such are a publisher, In the past they have claimed they only delete posts that demonstrably break the law and not views, They have now exercised editorial control and should be treat as a publisher with all the liabilities that brings
     
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  3. Storck

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    weirdly Trump was all for them keeping their exemption as not a publisher
     
  4. YungNath

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    Trump himself shot down leg9islation around that actually happening
     
  5. trevor

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    Well that's it Biden installed and promising lots of change,
     
  6. Offcomedun

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    Amen to that.
     
  7. Idlebantam

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    Going by his and Harris' obvious left wing views, not all changes for the better. I think Harris will be pulling a lot of the strings, far more than a deputy would normally do so
     
  8. Tony Wilkinson

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    You won't see this in your 'Guardian'
    We don't care who's President: Antifa rioters smash windows at Oregon's Democratic Party headquarters in Portland, burn American flags in Denver and vandalise stores in Seattle just hours after Biden took office
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    Antifa demonstrators smashed the windows of the Democratic Party headquarters in Portland, Oregon; burned American flags and spray-painted graffiti onto storefronts in Denver and Seattle; marched in Columbus, Ohio; and wielded shields and clubs while protesting in Sacramento hours after President Joe Biden's inauguration. A group of protesters carrying anti-Biden and anti-police signs were marching Wednesday in Portland streets and damaged the headquarters of the Democratic Party of Oregon, police said. The group in Portland smashed windows and spray-painted anarchist symbols at the political party building. It was one of at least four groups planning to gather in the city on Inauguration Day, police said.
     
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  9. Offcomedun

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    Yes, there are ridiculous extremists at both ends of the political spectrum in many countries. In other news, bears have been known to shit in the woods.
    The difference is that Biden won't be encouraging extremists to smash things up and subvert democratic processes, unlike the Orange Ego.
     
  10. Tony Wilkinson

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    Nor will he have the power/desire to address these problems..
     
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    He'll certainly have the desire. The power to address them is more problematic, because the Republicans are likely to use the fillibuster to block him taking the necessary radical steps.
    Of course what you think is necessary to address these problems and what I think are likely to be very different.
     
  12. Offcomedun

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    You are at least partially wrong. In today's Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/21/portland-leftwing-protesters-democrats-headquarters?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
     
  13. Tony Wilkinson

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    I didn't. I just opened the Guardian app and there it was.
     
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    Do you pay for it yourself?
     
  16. Offcomedun

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    What do you mean?
     
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    Sorry just curious if you subscribed or was paid for maybe by work etc, No inference implied just curious
     
  18. Offcomedun

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    You can get the Guardian app on your phone for free. You can also be a subscriber for £50 a year, which I am, which gets you extra features, like the ability to save articles for later.
     
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    Seems like Trump did call for a national guard presence on the day of the Capitol riots.... Lot of egg on face if it's true.
     
  20. JonButterfield

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    Get real.

    Donald Trump literally activated the national guard and military police to cross a road and enter a church, forcibly dispersing protestors a few months prior to the capitol riots. It was his prerogative to do so.

    Trump could have activated the same presence, or greater, at any point leading up to the capitol riots but chose not to.

    The fact the White House tweeted something that effectively legalised the deployment of the national guard and military police is not the same as mandating their presence in order to defend the capitol.

    There's literally no need for this 'if true', Trump didn't bother because he didn't have a well-orchestrated plan in mind to stop the riots.

    Sources:

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/trump-george-floyd-protests-military-deploy
     

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