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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lard Arse, Jun 29, 2021.

  1. JonButterfield

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    Yeah, as long as we have a McBurnie every two years, we'll only be losing half a million quid a season!

    Except, the big, gaping flaw in that thinking is... McBurnie's gone, and there aren't any more McBurnie's!

    Ryan can say whatever he likes about transfer income, but when all you've got are a few 19 year old defenders playing a handful of first team games in the basement division, you ain't getting any transfer income.

    What's Staunton going to get us, £100k plus a sell on?

    We're looking for £2.6 million just to fail to break even - but okay, sure, any businessman can afford that...
     
  2. Keefly Bantam

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    Tell us why you still buy a ST after posts like that. intrigued.
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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    What's that supposed to mean?

    Why wouldn't I go and support the club? Because they need money and operate at a loss that Rupp is clearly covering?
     
  4. Park bantam

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    It’s important we do something you seem to dislike and improve our scouting system (we have started to do that) and find players who can have a sell on value and I am glad Ryan Sparks agrees
     
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    I don't quite get this post.

    On the basis that Jon suggests that we have few saleable assets, irrespective of the sound Bites and potentially could run up losses, then why would you question why a poster would buy a ST?

    You could ask myself the same question and I'm guessing, other posters?
     
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  6. bantamdave41

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    Which players that have been brought in during the tenure of RS have a potential sell on value.

    Park, don't mean to be aggressive with my reply, genuinely intrigued

    Sorry @JonButterfield@JonButterfield for jumping in on your discussions
     
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  7. Park bantam

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    Crankshaw for one but your right not many yet we do have a few coming through though from the academy
     
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  8. JonButterfield

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    I don't disagree with scouting?

    I'm definitely not a fan of development squads, but that's completely separate.

    I've been calling for two things for a couple of years; a Director of Football and a professional off-the-field team that would naturally include a scouting network. In fact, I've called for one more thing, and that's the expansion of the net cast out by the academy that never, ever manages to find a single talented footballer across certain ethnic communities the length and breadth of Yorkshire in pretty much any age range - which is flipping ridiculous, and shows an obvious systemic preferential bias.

    As for 'signing players with sell on value', yeah, duh, even that ding dong Rahic could figure that out; if it was that easy we'd have sold one of his 'developed' youngsters for a couple of mill by now. As it is, I'm not sure any of them are in the EFL.
     
  9. JonButterfield

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    No worries, Dave, and Crankshaw...?

    Is he even going to play?
     
  10. Park bantam

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    We have twice tried half heartedly to develop released players and given up without giving time. But we can credit Rahic whether people like it or not on the big improvements in the academy we now have four or five in the first team squad and that’s unheard of for this club
     
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  11. Park bantam

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    Yes
     
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  12. Keefly Bantam

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    Genuine question. What qualifies you to make these assertions? Interested to hear of your football background and expertise in this area.
     
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  13. JonButterfield

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    It's pointless, Park, a released player is either good enough or he isn't, we aren't talking about 14 year old boys, they're generally 18 or older. We should be looking at those players, fine, trial them, loan them, whatever, but we don't need to sign 15 players who clearly aren't good enough just because we like the idea of a development squad.

    Nahki Wells was released by Carlisle, and we didn't have to fart about with a development squad; we signed him because we thought he might be able to play first team football, and when he got his chance he proved us right. We didn't need to sign players like Tom Clare, who is apparently at Pontefract Collieries, just to flesh out a squad so Nahki can play irrelevant games in a non-competitive environment to 'prove' he's first team ready. Forget that, if they're not good enough, leave them, if they are, sign them, and at that point it's sink or swim. They either end up getting game time or they don't.

    It's a beautiful dream, but the fact is those players we signed for Rahic's crappy development squad were here alongside players like Reece Staunton - and who did we keep? The one that was good enough for a bit of game time.
     
  14. JonButterfield

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    What qualifies me to post on a small forum in a tiny corner of the internet about the merits of a Director of Football and a scouting network?

    Is that a serious question?
     
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  15. Park bantam

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    We would have had one at least if he hadn’t been a stupid blxxdy idiot
     
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  16. Keefly Bantam

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    Yeah you said it. Don't back off now like @Fordy117@Fordy117 does. Answer the question.
     
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  17. JonButterfield

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    I don't know if you registered when I registered, but there was nowhere to submit qualifications, diplomas, degrees, or any of that stuff, so frankly I've no idea what you're talking about.

    I'd also be very surprised if anyone at Bradford City Football Club wanted to know what qualifications I had if I were to make the case for a Director of Football and a scouting network in person, either, because, let's be honest, those qualifications don't exist and nobody on planet Earth has a qualification in 'having an opinion on football'.

    BUT, I'm guessing that's not actually your question, and your actual question is why am I so sure we need a Director of Football and a scouting network?
     
  18. WilsdenBantam

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    Tbf regarding the cast offs Rahic brought in Robinson was good enough for league 1 football, maybe he could of developed even higher if he wasn’t scum. Patrick has now also moved to a league 1 club, he looked out of his depth here , but had a good spell at Carlisle. He’s not the first or last player we’ve misused and not got the best out of. It’s not just scouting, we need to get the best out of players Peterborough are experts at it.
     
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  19. Keefly Bantam

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    No-I quote you:
    I've been calling for two things for a couple of years; a Director of Football and a professional off-the-field team that would naturally include a scouting network.
     
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  20. JonButterfield

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    I think what people say they want from a development squad is what Peterborough achieve without one.

    But Peterborough sign players for good money and put them straight into the first team, and that money comes from their rotating door transfer policy and maximising transfer fees for players going to bigger clubs - which we've never done. The best we've ever done is sold McBurnie for next to nowt, then cashed in on ANOTHER team's effort at catching the big sale and taking a little percentage of it.

    What Peterborough don't seem to do is sign a random lad released by a local rival like Barnsley and hope that in five years he'll be ready for some first team action; the lads they sign are first team ready.
     
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