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The Voice - Match preview #42: Swindon Town vs Bradford City Saturday 12th April 2025 12:30pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by The Voice, Apr 7, 2025.

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Match thoughts

  1. Win

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    32.3%
  2. Lose

    10 vote(s)
    15.4%
  3. Draw

    34 vote(s)
    52.3%
  1. The_Parader

    The_Parader Fringe Player

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    My hope is Richie isn't nailed to the wall by fans because it wont end at Swindon. If we lose thursday it will be his fault because he's missing...repeat repeat.

    My opinion is it wasnt a red card.....was it any worse than the tackle on Patto?...only my take on it.

    A long long time since i posted on here but I just hope supporters dont over react to Richie and his family. No one will be hurting more than him i'm sure.
     
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  2. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    Spot on it was a costly mistake but if you take aggression out of his game he wouldn’t be the same player. Free kicks apart he has been great this season and a big loss for the next three games
     
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  3. Offcomedun

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    Thanks. Deeney’s hat trick was all second half goals though. I imagine a losing first half hat trick is even rarer.
     
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  4. Kevin1954

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    Think outside the box if you can.. Surround the referee , coincidentally as they did on Sat , and clamour for a sending off . You are a tad naive if you dismiss coercing the referee isn’t a tactic , just as is winding up the opponent. Just watch Billy Sharps sending off , and the reaction of the centre back after they surrounded the official . You need to watch games closer and understand what influencing the officials can do instead of trying to argue .
     
  5. Kevin1954

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    @Bumblebee_Tuna@Bumblebee_Tuna … I suppose this was totally accidental and not intended to create some form of reaction? I rest my case m’lud.
     
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  6. Kevin1954

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    You miss a lot . You were doing it with @Bronco@Bronco only this weekend .NOT reading threads properly?
     
  7. Onside

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    Red.
     
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  8. Kevin1954

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    I can’t see any reaction from the fans tbh . Welcome back!
     
  9. Kevin1954

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    Red all day violent conduct …And this is the offence the clownish Swindon fan said Shep was feigning a facial injury!

    Btw what happened to him , he disappeared faster than he arrived?
     
  10. Kopendin1964

    Kopendin1964 Impact Sub

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    Red all day
     
  11. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    I don't think I've ever seen a bad challenge that hasn't resulted in the team on the receiving end 'clamour' for a red. It doesn't mean the ref will give one. Teams clamour for a red constantly if there's any chance that it might be a red. The Smallwood challenge was never going to be anything other than a red from the moment he launched into that challenge. If you thought for one minute that the ref wasn't going to give a red straight away then you need to watch more football. I got up out my seat and went to put the kettle on as soon as he dived in. Didn't need to stick around to see the ref's decision. Of course their players were baying for a red but the red card was coming out regardless. Sometimes the ref might be influenced but to claim that Holloway's side is successful in repeatedly 'getting players sent off' doesn't stack up when you look at the red cards that teams have got against Swindon.

    As for Harry Smith's barge, I think most refs give a yellow for that. Again, watch live games and you see players barging / squaring up / shoving all the time. Anyway, if that's Shepherd on Smith, you're calling him a diver and a disgrace for trying to get him sent off. I know you won't be able to admit it but you'll see things through a completely different lense. Why shouldn't you? We are supposed to be partisan. Maybe I just try too hard to be rational.
     
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  12. Kopendin1964

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    Is it just me, but I just cannot put myself through watching the highlights again from Saturday.
     
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  13. Bumblebee_Tuna

    Bumblebee_Tuna Squad Player

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    Clarify it for me then, did you think Swindon used 'long ball tactics' at any point in the game against us?
     
  14. DimitriPayet

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    That is me with every big game loss. I’ve never seen the League Cup Final or Play-Off Final loss to Millwall back either. My only memories of these games were being in the stadium
     
  15. Kevin1954

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    Is this a quiz now ? I explained once and again you seem to struggling with your understanding of a thread ? . For the last time I was referring to ADDED time in response to the thread comment by Jordan #771 . If you don’t understand what added time and the tactics they employed during it then is there any hope at all.
     
  16. Kevin1954

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    You certainly struggle with rule definition .

    For clarification


    In English Football League (EFL), violent conduct is defined as a player using excessive force or brutality against an opponent, team-mate, spectator, match official, or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made, especially when not challenging for the ball according to The FA. It's about a deliberate act of violence, not just a reckless or dangerous challenge.
    Key aspects of violent conduct in EFL:
    • Excessive Force:
      Using more force than necessary or expected in a normal challenge for the ball.
    • Brutality:
      Actions that are cruel, harsh, and intended to inflict harm.
    • Target:
      The violent conduct can be directed at any person, including opponents, teammates, match officials, spectators, or even ball boys.
    • Intent:
      It's not just about making contact, but about the intention to cause harm or use excessive force.
    • Context:
      The context of the play is important. If a player uses excessive force or brutality when challenging for the ball, it might be considered serious foul play rather than violent conduct.

    Examples of violent conduct in EFL:
    • Elbowing an opponent when not challenging for the ball.
    • Kicking or stamping an opponent.
    • Striking or biting an opponent.
    • Deliberately pulling an opponent's hair with force.
    • Using offensive, insulting, or abusive language or actions towards others.
    • Spitting at another person.

    Penalties for Violent Conduct:
    Violent conduct typically results in a red card and potential further disciplinary action from the FA. The specific penalties can vary depending on the severity of the incident and the specific rules of the competition

    I think that’s covered it for future reference.
     
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  17. Bumblebee_Tuna

    Bumblebee_Tuna Squad Player

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    Aye. Absolutely no interpretation comes into any of that. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
  18. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    OK. Just for clarity. They didn't use 'long ball tactics'.
     
  19. Park bantam

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  20. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    The trouble is all of us can think of examples when bad tackles similar to Smallwoods and other violent conduct gets lightly punished or no punishment at all. It’s the inconsistency that annoys
     
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