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Pyro's

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by SteveC, Apr 17, 2023.

  1. Offcomedun

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    I would save your breath Al. His obvious anti-scouse prejudice makes him determined to believe that the Hillsborough deaths and the recent fiasco in Paris were the fault of Liverpool fans, rather than incompetence by the various authorities, despite numerous enquiries and reports providing copious evidence to the contrary.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    By coincidence Steve, i had to explain this very thing to my wife who was under the impression it was caused by Liverpool fans without tickets as she has little interest in football and din't know of the campaign by Liverpool fans to seek justice over the huge cover up by Thatchers government, South Yorkshire police and gutter press like the sun newspaper. But that was par for the course in the 80s, the working classand football fans treat like scum.
     
  3. Steve1970

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    Imagine next Monday when everything falls our way I wonder if anyone will be on the pitch ;)
     
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  4. Dennis

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    Do you really believe this nonsense? That was the original line briefed to the Sun by the police authorities and certain politicians to pin the blame on drunken, unruly football fans. Not surprisingly, a subsequent review by another police authority supported the original briefing. Twenty plus years on, it took an Independent Inquiry acting on behalf of Parliament to finally get to the truth and further criminal action for the police officers in charge of policing on the day to admit that it was their actions and not those of Liverpool fans which led to 96 deaths. No blame was attached to the Liverpool fans by the Independent Inquiry or by several coroners contradicting the lies originally provided by the police.

    And still some idiots to this day attempt to say otherwise! If you wish to educate yourself, read the report of the Hillsborough Independent Panel as accepted by Parliament. Or maybe you'll be better suited to reading the Sun's own apology to the Liverpool fans who they originally blamed for the tragedy.
     
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    Loyal Bantam, as a Liverpool fanatic for 58 years as well as a City one for over 60, I can safely say you are either a wind-up merchant of the worst kind, or a complete idiot who we should all feel sorry for. Liverpool supporters have never tried to avoid blame for the Heysel tragedy, but it has been conclusively proved that they did nothing wrong that contributed to either the Hillsborough disaster or the Paris debacle. Try to grow up rather than making brain dead comments just to try to deflect from your original ridiculed comments on pyro's.
     
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  6. Loyalbantam

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    Anti scouse? What the hell are you talking about.
     
  7. Loyalbantam

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    I never said the fans were drunk or unruly, I said they were ticketless and gained entry without a ticket.
    If that’s not true then I apologise
     
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    I've just checked back on the Champions League Final thread. It seems I have mixed you up with another couple of posters who have blatant anti-scouser prejudice. Profuse apologies Loyal. My bad.
     
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    Only just seen your response Loyalbantam. The ticketless & illegal entry stories were untrue, and the pain these stories caused to Liverpool fans and families who lost their fathers and children has left us with a very thin skin for such matters when they are repeated. However, I appreciate your apology and that's an end to the matter as far as I'm concerned.
     
  10. Interested Bystander

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    Anyone still think pyros add anything apart from 14 minutes of added time for a Crewe winner?
     
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  11. Rcbantam

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    It's time for a strongly worded statement from the CEO. Time to start handing out lifetime bans. City official... Do your job.

    Oh wait, what am I saying... You can't build a a promotion winning team. Again. :joy:
     
  12. Jayteebee

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    There is obviously going to be some strong reaction to our moronic fan sections behaviour at Crewe.
    The league are going to hammer the club and quite rightly
    This has to stop NOW.
    I am afraid they make it no longer an enjoyable experience going to watch City and that is before you start on the football.
    We need these poisonous people removing from our club.
    Angry, you bet I ******* am.
     
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    Agreed. The pyromorons have fallen to the worst possible mark on the stupidity meter. A lungful of possibly toxic smoke is no fun; these people simply don't even think let alone care about the effects of their actions on others. Today we saw another possible consequence -- true we should have seen the match out, but 5 or 6 minutes would have been a lot easier than 10+.

    But what would be a suitable punishment? Banning of identified perps. goes without saying, as does criminal proceedings against said perps. But after that? A fine, yes, but more importantly, I'd argue, points deductions large enough to really hurt need to be applied and not just threatened.

    Of course, that means we the overwhelming majority of supporters, along with the players and staff, will be the innocents who suffer, perhaps by a promotion denied or a relegation imposed. But how else to get the message across?

    RCB
     
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    Problem with point deductions being introduced RCB is you open the door to opportunists and their ability to easily infiltrate a fan base and influence such action.
    You have to identify the culprits responsible and hit them as hard as the law allows, it is the only way
     
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  15. River_City_Bantam

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    Yes, that is the very problematic element in my proposal, and I don't have a good argument to make against your point. I'm not so naive as to think it couldn't happen, or that the people who might want to make it happen would not find ways to avoid any association with their own club.

    More targetted searches of supporters entering a ground? More comprehensive CCTV coverage of all spectator areas? I personally don't like either of those things, but needs must. As you say, identification of the perps. is vital.

    RCB
     
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    Did I also see a red seat thrown onto the pitch?
     
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    So yesterday, after a very poor first half performance BCAFC come out of the gates second half and have Crewe rattled, we score 2 quick goals after half time and have all the momentum.

    Morons do their bit in delaying the restart of the game by hurling pryos onto the pitch, fighting with stewards and the police and the referee calls the two captains over, everyone goes over the the sideline and Crewe have time to regroup with their manager and all the momentum City had is sacked out of the game.

    BuT PyRoS Add to THe AtMoSpHeRE......

    Morons the lot of them. I'd be happy for these idiots to be publicly shamed and their faces posted all over today's T&A.

    From what I could see from the Pyros tonight they looked like actual flames were coming out of the buckets that the stewards were using to remove them from the pitch.

    The morons have nothing between the ears.
     
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    A couple from what I saw at the far end. All very depressing really
     
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    I do not condone pyros but I also don’t condone is blaming a shite performance on a late winner. What are we doing if we score in 99th minute praising the pyros for so much added time ? We carnt have it both ways
     
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    Spot on and yes seats were thrown but I'm hearing the suggestion the players were taken 'off' due to a drone although I can't say I saw anything.
    Although Crewe had us sussed and played to the strength of their speed by constantly playing it behind our back four, I'm afraid I'm with the view that our so called fans contributed to that loss. As said above 6 added minutes could have been dealt with but the extra 4 or so encouraged them to lump it forward even more.
    Very bad night and I think we can expect the distinct possibility of strong action against us. Having said that and with no defence I did think that with what appeared to be half Cheshire Police car and van fleet at the ground they could have eliminated the second pyro incident.
     
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