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Mark Hughes to Cardiff

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Onside87, Sep 18, 2022.

  1. Bigrod

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    How dare you criticise the Council!

    Look they have grand plans to ‘redevelop’ Odsal into a World Class Stadium (subject to grants from Central Government) plus turn the Oxenhope to Keighley preservation line into a state of the art (or something like it) rail commuter link!

    ‘Plans to turn Odsal Stadium into “a national home for Rugby League” are among the latest multi-million-pound bids for Government Levelling Up cash’. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/20604842.odsal-stadium-rebuild-bingley-pool-reopening-among-cash-bid-plans/
     
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    There's been plans to develop Odsal since I was at school and that's a while ago. 20 million sounds alot but to develop what they are describing would cost more than that it would be more like a budget world class facility.
     
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    I genuinely can’t see Hughes leaving anytime soon.

    He applied for jobs in recent years but wasn’t even getting interviews, and he’s on record as saying that some clubs he was at the fans never wanted him from the word go. At City he’s been welcomed with open arms and I think that means a lot to him.

    I get the feeling the love is reciprocated and he’s in it for the long haul here.
     
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    I was enjoying a nice Midget Gem when I copied that quote/link.

    Frankly I think I have more chance of winning the Euro Millions than any of these ’grand proposals’ coming to fruition.

    Apparently they were going to ‘develop’ Odsal when the Bay City rollers were around, according to my Great Aunt!
     
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    Shang a Lang Shang a Lang
     
  6. Kevin1954

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    In his head!
     
  7. Kevin1954

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    Why does “Rugby League” and Odsal stadium have such a hold on the thought process of Bradford Council as a means of pizzing money up the wall. I just don’t understand it. This perpetual chucking money at what is becoming a dying professional sport at an old stadium without vast amounts of cash is frankly mad. They need to think outside the box in truth. Spend £20m on building a decent stadium at Horsfall or a new brownfield site closer to the City and use Odsal to enhance the coffers of the City for the next 50 years or so ….Landfill!
     
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    While I agree with you on most of your points, especially regarding continually throwing money at Odsal Stadium, the "dying professional sport" bit I can't agree with. It is a dying professional sport in Bradford due to successive bad management of the Bulls. Were they to be well management financially (privately) they could get back to where they were when the Bulls and Saint Helens were the top sides in the games attracting very good crowds. I've followed City since 1974 but I've also supported Bradford Northern/Bulls since 1966. When City were in the Premier League attracting good crowds Bradford Bulls were doing the same during the summer, with a lot of fans following both clubs.
    Although I have enjoyed many good times at Odsal, both club matches and an International Great Britain v Australia (which we won!) I agree that Odsal should have been used as landfill then eventually sold off, both of which would have raised plenty of cash towards building a new stadium at Horsfall or helping finish off the development of Valley Parade (providing we owned it of course). So many bad decisions over the years on the part of many people.
     
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    As much as I love City, as a sport I've always seen Rugby League as the best sport in the world when played at its best, it's 80 minutes of pure action that can't be beat. And it saddens me that of what's happened to a team that brought so much to not only the sport but also to Bradford as a City. Odsal has always been a contentious issue but also has a sporting history quite unique due to its multi purpose construction. I think Odsal sums up the City of Bradford quite well, the place has seen better days but has been allowed to wither and die because of failed administration, corruption and political agendas. As it stands there is no need for an Odsal stadium anymore. Motorsports doesn't bring in enough interest and the bulls are a sinking ship. The likes of Leeds and Saints are playing yet another grand final on Saturday and both have stadiums befitting successful teams. Bradford, well........
     
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    The lack of professionalism killed Northern as I knew them RT , I loved watching them myself. Successive wannabe “ Chairman” reliant on Council funding thus getting them repeatedly out of jail was a nonsense supported by naive local politicians. Then once Sky got hold of the “ RL brand” that was it for me . It became a race to the top , leaving less well funded clubs to go to the wall or “ cheat” using borrowed money. Overspending on salaries became the norm just to stay ahead of the pack, with the aim of getting televised even more. Some clubs got away with it some didn’t. Same happened at City, let’s not forget. It was depressing to watch the downward spiral, with sadly and ultimately, creditors and the taxpayer footing the bill.

    Once again we see a proposal for the cycle to return.
    “I know let’s plough MORE taxpayers money into improving Odsal, and the crowds will return” . The flaw with the proposal……Who pays for assembling a squad good enough to challenge the top teams thus attracting these massive attendances?

    It won’t happen , is my sincere belief, because whoever funding this hair brained scheme will look into the history cycle and realise it’s all been tried before and failed.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I doubt it. Why…Because we have seen it happen , round and round over the last 40 years. History has led the way in this instance.
     
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    Dying professional sport in Bradford, totally agree.
     
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    Bradfords top young player and talent has just left the club to sign for.....









































    Keighley , jobs fecked
     
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    Very much my thoughts, both regarding Rugby League and the managing of Bradford's decline. A good example is the proposed demolition of the shopping centre that replaced the market that should never have been demolished. Kirkgate Market should have been redeveloped internally and sandbasted externally. What a wonderful asset to our once great city that would have been
     
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    When he goes, we need to be prepared and to that end, the return of the prodigal son is the only answer. Bring back El Del, you know it makes sense! (Well almost as much as Hughes to Cardiff).
     
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    I'm hoping the quoted money is from the government (although as you say ultimatly the tax player) and nothing involves Bradford Council money council tax ETC.
     
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    Bradford Council are responsible for identifying in the first instance and then promoting the options as a means of allocating the funding on “ grand schemes” . The funds were removed from local control by the same Government who are then giving it back again making it look like a “present”. It’s all smoke and mirrors Dave using taxpayer funds. That’s how “levelling up “ works I believe.
     
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    Not wanting to be a killjoy but can anyone think of any examples of a lower league manager who has turned down jobs for more money in a higher league because they 'have a project to finish'. These scenarios always play out the same way with the manager riding off into the sunset. Hope I'm wrong when the inevitable happens and a big club come calling.
     
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    No doubt super sparks will have a huge release clause,
     
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    I've posted this a few weeks ago....It's the UK Shared Prosperity Fund (UKSPF) in essence....It's a replacement to the European Structure and Investment Fund and European Social Fund (i.e. money from the EU) for projects to bid for....only it's about a third of the value of ESIF and ESF money.....
     
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    I think Hughes will stick around for this season at least. In order to have a better chance of keeping him, we need to improve facilities outside of the stadium. What the Cardiffs et al will have are first class training complexes which unfortunately we don't. Hughes hasn't really experienced a bad winter at Apperley Bridge where he can't get on the grass for weeks on end. If we can show some intention to improve in this area, it might go a long way to convincing him to stay for the long haul.

    It will also depend on what investment we put into the team should we get promoted. Looking at this seasons squad I'd imagine it's top end of the budget league. If he wants to assemble an equally strong squad for next season, in the hope of getting to the championship, its going to cost a hell of lot more than we've spent this year. If he's not supported will he still have that hunger? He'll probably want to manage as high as he can as quickly as he can, so we need to match his ambition.
     

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