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Pitch Watering

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bigrod, Aug 12, 2022.

  1. NorthernMonkey

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    Anyone remember a reservoir being built near then recently?

    If not, perhaps the water shortages are due to the ever expanding population continually taking more out than ever before rather than being anything to do with climate change?
     
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    Population has increased by 9 million since 2002 (80 percent from immigration) that’s Bulgaria and a half and people still think population isn’t a problem, we are absolutely full and everything you can think of is over stretched.
     
  3. Fordy117

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    Same!! Companies are taking the piss.Tradesman are currently taking the piss.

    Customers remember trying to be ripped off.
    Not everything has gone up in price.

    Look @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler will know Morrisons is ripping us all off right now on the petrol front and maybe other areas. When BP has cheaper petrol than Morrisons you know something isn’t right but watch their profits when it’s announced.

    Look this country has made a lot of massive mistakes, Boris, Brexit to name a few but let’s not all be mugged off.

    The government has lost its way and businesses are walking all over it. The government is at fault and many will suffer.
     
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    Thruscross reservoir is the largest of the 4 reservoirs in the Washburn valley which feed Leeds. It is designed to hold back water at the top of the valley and then release it into Fewston as and when required. Other than the standard compensation flow which constantly runs for environmental reasons, it has been operating on a vastly reduced release schedule for a few years and there hasn't been a major release for at least 12 months. It's empty because it's not getting filled up, not because water consumption has increased.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    Thanks for the lecture but you didn't answer my simple question have you had to raise you prices for your customers a yes or not would have sufficed.
     
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    Slow news day.
     
  7. Bronco

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    Just got up day ;).
     
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    Because people who hold climate change denying views - eg conspiratorial ideas that it's all a big con/media conspiracy etc - invariably are right wing. I've yet to meet anyone who holds centrist or left of centre views who doesn't accept that the climate is changing because of the activities of humankind.

    Glaciers and polar ice caps are melting. The seas are rising. Forests are burning. Extreme weather events of various types are happening all over the globe at much greater frequency than before.

    The temperatures we are seeing now are well above the norm for this country. When I was a child in the 60s and 70s anything over 70°F (20° C) was considered hot. Nowadays that's just seen as pleasantly warm. Anything above 75° (24) was seen as blisteringly hot and exceptional. Now we see that as commonplace. Anything above 90° (32) was the kinds of temperatures you only encountered if you went to Africa, the Carribbean or South America which, of course, hardly anybody did in those days.

    The exception being the summer of 1976, when temperatures climbed over 30°c on several occasions. But that was the hottest summer for 350 years. A massive outlier from the usual norms. Yet now we are seeing temperatures even higher than in 1976 and seeing temperatures of 30°+ in summer on a fairly regular basis. This is not what has been 'normal summer heat' for the vast majority of my 66 years. It's considerably hotter and it's happening far more often.
     
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  9. Bronco

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    Your correct Steve fossil fuel is acknowledged as one of the biggest polluters, these are the worlds top 10 polluters.

    • China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
    • United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2.
    • India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2.
    • Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2.
    • Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2.
    • Germany, 759 million tons of CO2.
    • Iran, 720 million tons of CO2.
    • South Korea, 659 million tons of CO2
    • Saudi Arabia, 621 million tons of CO2
    • Indonesia, 615 million tons of CO2
    I'm not sure the likes of China, India, Russia or Iran are going to cut back as they are fast growing economies, but America and Germany Japan should be leaders in reducing the use of fossil fuel.
    China, America and India account for 54 % of the worlds fossil fuel by weight.
     
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    Without wanting to derail this lovely thread about the pitch getting watered at Valley Parade... Are you honestly trying to tell me the population of the U.K. has increased by 9 million people since 2002 and 80% of that increase is from immigration? Where does this this kind of information come from?
     
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    National statistics look it up.
     
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    It's not the whole problem but it's certainly part of it. As a world we do need to move away from fossil fuels and to more sustainable ways of using energy. But every new person added to the world's population means another increase in the amount of energy needed to be created. Already we can see the world's food and water industry being stretched to its limits. My time on this planet is limited now, I won't be around to see the shitshow that the next generation will have to put up with. But hey, at least the likes of Musk and Bezos will be richer.
     
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    You want to move to Queensbury. Anything above minus 5 is classed as summer up here :thumbup:
     
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    NO! I did answer! Prices the same!

    Not, all prices have increased. Companies like Morrisons are taking the piss!
     
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    Well, I did, the numbers you quoted sound ridiculous but they are close to being correct. There is definitely some grey areas regarding children born to migrant parents but you were correct in what you said.
     
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    So your absorbing the increases in electricity, gas, petrol etc and not passing it on to your customers, top man :thumbup:.
     
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    They do love a QAnon conspiracy!
     
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    The thing is though in 1995 it was less of an issue as it was more of a short-term issue, we had a mean temp of 19.2 in June and 18.9 in July. The warm weather was much more consistent than what we have now where June 2022 was a mean temp of 13.9 and July 16.6. It should also be noted that the hottest days this year are a fair bit higher than in 1995 so the fact the mean temps are lower shows how the weather has been yoyoing compared to 95. And in 95 we didn't have one of the wettest Feb on record like we did this year. We knew that 95 would be more of an anonymoly.

    Right now the problem is more long-term, we have had a couple of years of not great summers with a fair amount of rain. As I've said reservoir levels have been low consistently over the last few years because again the rain we have been getting hasn't been the right type of rain in the right places to adequately replenish groundwater so we have had to pull more and more out of the reservoirs.
     
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    Yes, because long term customers remember.

    Example. Wanting paving doing. It’s a 3k job getting quotes for 10k.

    Now ok, sand has increased but the labour costs shouldn’t that much. Refused the job. Them quoting silly money I would never use.

    Some are thinking about short term gain rather than long term sustainability and will go out of business.
     
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    The thing is as I've said elsewhere on this thread Reservoirs are more of a backup source than a primary source of water. We get most of our water first from groundwater and then after that direct from rivers. If reservoirs are low that means that we are having to draw more from them which means ground and river water levels are low. And if these are low it also means the source of water needed to fill reservoirs is limited as their sources are groundwater and rivers.

    Unless there is a suitable site to build a new one that can source water from untapped sources or we have a way of filling it more efficiently with the kind of rain that's becoming more common and doesn't help replenish water sources very well then the benefit of building a new one doesn't justify the cost (or the fact that it usually means displacing people)
     
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