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Cost of Living Crisis

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by YungNath, Jul 28, 2022.

  1. trevor

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    There's no doubt it's a disaster of a disaster ‍
     
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  2. trevor

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    I think those that remember those times will differ. Waiting 3 to 6 months for a telephone and having a shared line with a stranger was not uncommon. Gas and Electric virtually the same regards service because they knew you could not go elsewhere
     
  3. Hoochy-Min

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    Because New Labour were a Tory-Lite party to appeal and swing voters from blue to red. They didn't want their policies to be very left of centre at all.
     
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  4. SelbyFan

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    Irrelevant of party all politicians now are career politicians.

    There is little difference between the so called right and left.

    None are driven by the beliefs that drove their predecessors (for instance inequality and unfairness) to rail against the incumbent government.

    Politics is dead and the government is just another level of management. (Usually managing for their own gain).

    My opinions only (long live the revolution).
     
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  5. Bronco

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    Well if that's the case (which I don't disagree with) any manifesto under a Sir Keir Starmer Labour party will not be bringing utilities back into the public sector.
     
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    agreed - I just dont see why they cant be private companies owned solely by the taxpayer. That way profits go into the exchequer and due to not needing to pay tax etc this could be offset in prices.

    Then those companies could setup in the EU and take cash from europe into our pockets. Win win
     
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    that’s why he’s talking about Corbyn.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    As we know there is so much baggage with the likes of Corbyn, they hounded Micheal Foot out because of his past calling him "Worzel Gummidge" because of the way he dress etc and the Tories saying if elected the Labour Party would go down the road of Nuclear disarmament with Foot being one of the founders of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.
     
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    i guess it’s whether you think his, (or someone similar to him), baggage is bad or not. They did a pretty good job on Corbyn, if he was so unelectable, it make you wonder why they needed to.
     
  10. Bronco

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  11. Bronco

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    I think we're better informed in this day and age, having said that many would disagree using the referendum as an example.
    I'm very much in favour of utilities not being in private hands but would it be a manifesto promise that could win Labour a term in government.
     
  12. Tony Wilkinson

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    Whose sons and daughters or even grandsons and granddaughters are the ones now blighting us with their XR/Just stop oil ideology, all linked to the left..
     
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    Serious question - not meant as a wind up.
    What do you think should be done about climate change, Tony? Do you think we should just ignore it, carry on burning fossil fuels as before and to hell with the impact on future generations, because it won't really affect oldies like you and me that much? Or do you think it's all just a myth?
     
  14. Tony Wilkinson

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    Yes, yes, yes,yes and yes.....
    I know you will be aware that the UK is only responsible for about 1% of the planets carbon emissions, should we go nett zero tomorrow and give up all that means we can live our lives comfortably and go back and live in caves it would have zero affect on the earths natural climate changes...
     
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    So you think it's all a myth that human activity is driving climate change?
     
  16. Tony Wilkinson

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    100%
     
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    So 99% of climate scientists are wrong then?
     
  18. Tony Wilkinson

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    Yeah, what do they know...lol

    Natural influences on the climate include volcanic eruptions, changes in the orbit of the Earth, and shifts in the Earth's crust (known as plate tectonics). Over the past one million years, the Earth has experienced a series of ice ages, including cooler periods (glacials) and warmer periods (interglacials).
     
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    Scientists can accurately measure atmospheric carbon levels from the last few hundred thousand years. You are correct that carbon levels fluctuate over time naturally with a fairly regular pattern from 180 parts per million (ppm) carbon to 280ppm. These swings usually take approximately 100000 years to go up and down. The highest historical carbon reading was 300ppm around half a million years ago.

    We are currently in a natural upward trend of carbon following the last ice age 20000 years ago. This upward trend has not stopped at 280ppm as is the norm. It hasn't stopped at 300ppm which was the previously recorded peak. It's currently recorded at 419 ppm and seems to still be on the rise.

    There is more carbon in the atmosphere now than there ever has been before and I don't think the amount of carbon we create is a coincidence. I agree that if the UK went carbon neutral tomorrow it wouldn't make much difference overall, it's a global problem that requires a global solution.
     
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  20. Bronco

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    Any government that can't supply the utilities to their people will go down the route of burning fosil fuel or possibly have a lot of older people dying during the winter.
    What would you do Steve if we can't get the basics to sustain life.
     

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