Summer 2022 - Transfer Talk

FCD and RS need to be playing somewhere. Surprised FCD has gone to Spennymoor but it shows a recognition of the importance of playing. Staunton needs to get fixed up with a loan too, Wouk’s do be great if it was national league but he might need to go a level lower. I think Scales, on the other hand, made the most of his chances in preseason and made Hughes take note. If he goes out on loan it would have be National League but I wonder if he fancies his chances of getting more involved here.

 

Exactly the above. Staunton had a decent run of about 5 or 6 games nearly 2 years ago. If he was a youth we picked up from somewhere else and had the last 2 seasons he had, there wouldn't be this sentiment towards him at all. He, like Devine before, gets an over hype and more of a leash.

He needs a season playing every week, regardless of level. Sounds like he didn't exactly impress at BPA and has turned down Fax this summer. If he hangs around here for another season, he's going to barely feature outside PJT games and then where is his career? If he doesn't go it will have been 3 full seasons on a pro contract with more injuries than starts.

 

Maybe Staunton only went to get game time as a favour to us, or to help them out following the lad who went on love Island? There may not have been any intention for him to join Halifax, but I'd agree he needs to get playing. Doesn't sound like he's being advised by his agent very well...

 

Interesting that at the Peterborough fans forum, DMAC stated that he will leave in the summer if they get promoted to the Championship. Then he wants two years with the family to get his kids onto the US college system. Then he's back into football.

I reckon he'll be our owner by 2026.

 

There was a small but vocal part of their fan base that started to want him out about 2 years ago. Then over the last 12 months that part of the fan base has grown pretty rapidly and there's now a sizeable chunk that call for him to go online and the last 5 or 6 games there were chants at the end of last season. He's an intelligent man and knows the end of the line is coming at Posh. The fans main gripe is they are sick of the transfer strategy he has as it's not progressive on the pitch. Last summer, they needed 5 or 6 champ experienced players but instead went with the old formula of spending a few million on U23s, then tried correcting it with loans in Jan but that squad was never going to stay up.

He's a good salesman, and often says his transfer tactic has brought in millions for guys like Toney. On their forum when it started getting toxic at the end of last season, a fan did a net tally of the last 5 seasons. Turns out every season, they sign 5 or 6 players on six figure plus deals, of that batch they'll get money for at least 1 sometimes 2 at very most a few seasons down the line. For every Toney/Dembele who moves on, the rest end up like Callum Cooke for example, who have a year or 18 months, club realise they aren't going to take them far, leave on loan or release. Over the 5 seasons, they made around 28 million from memory, and spent around 21 million. But because they spend so much for the money they bring in with such a small fanbase, that profit just goes on balancing books. His model would work better here for the money potential, it wouldn't have to go on balancing books as much.

 

They've switched the model to get more Academy players through.
He said they want to get to 70% Academy players and 30% signings but that does take time.
He was asked about the debt of £16M but said the squad is worth £40M. They could sell Edwards for £10M tomorrow and Szmodics looks like he is going to Blackburn.
He was raving about their Academy, lots of good one's coming through but will take 3-4 years.

 

He'll leave with them still in debt no doubt but they'll probably make a shed load in sales, if everyone ends up being as good as his build up. Think they've spent a good few million to get to a Cat 2 academy. Ours is Cat 3, hopefully would be a bright change if he did make the jump.

 

Sparks has said we are Cat 2 in all but name.
Facilities upgraded over the summer I believe.

 

Can't lie I'm a big fan of MacAnthony, he can rub folk up the wrong way but a lot fail to see what he's trying to achieve with a club that to be fair had done nothing until he showed up. He got it in wrong last season but he has to stick by his guns and what he believes will work for the long term at the club. As for him ever coming to us who knows. Don't think it would happen but he does keep banging on about the potential at the club.

 

I’m like you, won’t knock him. He’s , like it or not, got Peterborough punching far and away above its potential weight, based on natural incomes from attendances and commercial activity alone. Even though there isn’t the same local competition for support as in the West Riding , their fan base is tiny. One can go mile after mile outside Peterborough and see a dozen houses. The original “ transfer model” using Barry Fry as his conduit, got them where they are. Is it sustainable…..Time will tell.

 

Seems that way. I remember DMAC on a podcast saying they upgraded all their bits to pass a Cat 2 inspection, but to get the FA to come and approve all your stuff and certify the academy costs far too much, he just said it's a seven figure investment to get certified as Cat 2.

 

I think you can demand a higher fee if any of your youngsters get poached though. As you say, may not be worth the extra cost.

 

It's probably sustainable at a certain clubs with guaranteed income through just the sheer amount of fans through the door, doubt it's going to be anything more than a yo-yo model for a club like Peterborough. But their fans over the last few years have got this complex where they believe they should be a lower end champ club, in reality if the investment model goes, they are a fourth tier club. Hence needing someone to blame when it doesn't go their way.

He has the right idea with growing the academy as he said himself, you cant realistically just buy the best young none league talent and hope it clicks, it's too expensive when you can develop your own. Also, with Fifa wanting to clamp down on PL clubs just hoarding talent and limiting loans, the loan market will suffer and a lot of young lads will get to 21/22, released by a PL club and probably only had a handful of pro games. Might as well spend the money for a short term hit, and grow the academy, blood your own into the game.

 

Absolutely.

 

To go to Cat 2 don’t they have to prove they are spending, every year after certification, a guaranteed specific % of turnover on the Academy alone. Whilst we may have the equipment, faculties and facilities of Cat 2 we may not be able to sustain the annual investment in staff and coaching to use those facilities . I may be wrong as I don’t know enough surrounding the process?

 

Thanks Dennis….so they don’t have to guarantee funding as a %age of overall club spending but they have to guarantee wages and salaries, by reason of employing all these extra staff and coaches to support the category. One and the same to me , the only variable would be salaries paid. The bigger the club, the bigger coaches and staff salaries.Thanks for the explanation, I do see the difference in a roundabout way.

 

Dion Pereira still seems possible to me.

He was a sub against a Birmingham team, that Luton would be expecting to beat as they were at home, it ended 0-0, they seemed to lack creativity, but he couldn't even get on as a sub.

Either way I can see a loanee winger coming in before the window ends