World war 3....

Does anyone really believe the BBC propaganda machine Dave? One of the most biased media organisations ever to have graced this earth.

 

Is it? Funny how both the Tories & Labour, as well as Brexiteers & Remainers, all reckon it's biased against them.

 

yep biased against everyone

 

If you believe the BBC doesn't run with narratives and agendas covering its own interests and influenced by people in high office to then I give you two much credit. That's not to say any other media organisation doesn't do the same because they all do. But there's this weird perpetuated myth that the BBC is some sort of moral standing public service broadcaster. It might make some half decent TV shows and have one or two decent radio stations but politically it's corrupt to the back teeth.

 

so is it doing the governments bidding?

 

Its a piece from the Daily Express,I do believe somewhere along the line the Russian people will have to know its not going to Putin's plan or it would be done and dusted by now the Russians would be in Kyiv , he's under estimated both the Ukrainian army and the support the Western are providing.
They say he's a poorly man rumours of blood cancer etc, he's certainly not been guided well by his military advisors that's for sure.

 

I don’t watch much of the main TV channels tbh but I do listen to BBC radio, mostly radio 5 and I have no problem with it, I think it is very balanced and tries to be progressive and talk about subjects many don’t want to and would prefer to just go ‘la la la, I don’t like change’. You couldn’t pay me to listen to commercial talk radio though. Like people say, anything can be made to seem biased, if you get entrenched in one viewpoint. I try to keep an open mind, which is why I will at least listen to The Unexplained on Talk Radio from time to time, pretty much all it’s good for. Not once has Howard said the words ‘woke’ or ‘snowflake’, not once

 

Its well known that they do. Whoever the govt of the time is.

However the BBC do not lie intentionally, most media organisations attempt not to lie as if they are found to do so they can have licenses revoked.

The media have 4 or 5 pillars that they need to negotiate before a story is released.

1. the owner of the media outlet and his/her political leanings
2. advertisers, due to their money being what keeps the outlets alive
3. government, who can provide and revoke licenses
4. flak, the fallout from the public, lawsuits etc. which can be costly
5. the enemy, a form of social control i.e. a mechanism to manufacture consent such as anti-muslim, anti-woke, anti-communist back in the day, the war on terror.

Around 90% of media articles or stories will have negotiated all of these factors. Those that cant dont make the light of day.

But essentially its not in the media organisations best interests to lie as it is ultimately too costly. However they can ignore issues, ignore elephant in the room facts or opinions, they are entitled to choose on what they report.

Hence why Brexit is never questioned in the right wing press or BBC as being a factor in the UKs cost of living crisis. Given that France for example has only seen a 4% rise in energy prices vs our 50% and growing.

 

I think this is the easier, lazier sentiment to be honest. I know the BBC push a lot of agendas, but when it comes to serious journalism, they're one of the best in the world.

It's telling that folks like Marr and Andrew Neil leave to 'find their own voices', because the BBC platform isn't about them pushing their own ideals.

No media entity is perfect, but I've no idea what people are comparing the BBC to when they claim it's objectively biased. The narrative is usually the official one, and the stories generally pretty well fact checked, researched, and void of alarmist rhetoric that suits a particular political discourse.

 

Especially Bradford City

 

Oh I'm not saying the war is going to how Putin planned. To be honest I'm not sure what his end objective is or was. But i in will reiterate, do not believe everything that comes from the BBC propaganda machine, it's been bad enough with the last two years of covid and the narratives that come with that, this conflict just carries it on.

 

Not lazier sentiment, just my two penneth on what my opinion is of a corrupt organisation based on my view on media changing as I get older. I understand others will have a different view.

 

I only said lazier because I've heard from people I know don't actually think about it - I wasn't meaning to include you, exactly, I respect your posts and analysis on here

 

Love you too Jon. I never would have given it a thought years ago, I guess I'm more of cynical old bugger these days. For balance there's a journalist who calls himself independent on you tube, a guy called Graham Philips, he couldnt be further up Putin's arse if he crawled up there and tickled his tonsils. Funny how they all think they're right when it's just an opinion based on their biased journalism.

 

No journalist can be truly objective. Not one. By the nature of reporting the subject is engaged and therefore true objectivity is unattainable.

 

Heres a very interesting video. Both in its subject matter and watching Andrew Marr get flustered and owned by Chomsky.

 

In previous seasons, I considered getting a City shirt, replacing a number on the back with a big letter Z, to denote my pen-name of Zonnebloem.

I am now so glad I never did this.

 

The problem comes when they mistake their journalism as reporting the truth. There is no truth, only as you allude to reporting of a particular narrative. It's up to the reader or viewer to decide which narrative he or she believes is closer to the mythical truth.

 

Funny how when Ukraine were reporting victories it was never off the TV with reports of a falling Rouble, Now it seems the Rouble is at a very high level and Russia are steadily advancing the reports have dried up, Its almost as if the media only reports one side

 

Let's wait until the sanctions realy start kicking in, there are still countries buying gas etc from Russia, its only 3 months since the start of the invasion.