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Think need to lower expectations

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Nov 24, 2021.

  1. Fools Gold

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    The club won’t be worth anything the rate it’s going down the league @Storck@Storck . He clearly has no intention of making things right . He kept us on a even keel (after his own mistakes ) for his own benefit . The real alarm bells will ring when season ticket sales drop next season . I think people have just had enough now . All the hard work started by David Baldwin and carried on by James mason is all undone and the fans couldn’t feel more adrift from the club . I don’t see how Covid would effect the value of the club . That’s just a excuse .A few clubs have changed hands during Covid .
     
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    Would you cut your losses on a investment disappearing into oblivion
     
  3. Chris Withe

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    You'd have a point if this season's season ticket sales had been substantially lower than previous seasons. I'd wager that the club's fall from the verge of the Championship, when Rupp took control, to a mid table League 2 side has knocked far more off the value of the club than the pandemic has. The club could have a far more destructive owner, but it could also have someone far, far better than Rupp and I'm not talking someone with bottomless pockets. Someone who's interested and has a plan for the future would be a start.
     
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  4. Parader

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    I guess that depends if I could afford to keep it in the hope I might be able to get something out of it further down the line.

    Let's not even get into whether there would be any willing buyers out there for it...
     
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  5. Petrov

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    Lowering expectations? Not a chance. Bold statements have been made. We should be demanding they are fulfilled. I'm fed up of the constant see saw of having our hopes built up only to see them dashed within a few months of the season starting. It is not good enough. Demand better.
     
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  6. Fools Gold

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    Yeah I get the whole who would buy us argument and I agree but who’d have heard off rupp before he came in
     
  7. How

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    Sparks was moulded for the role by a man who I don’t think got one footballing decision right in all his time at the club, in Rhodes. Is it any wonder he’s made so many bad decisions so far?
    Also is it any wonder we are being run with an accounting style mind of break even and ensure the club keeps its owners pockets full?
    He’s more open in the press and that’s the only difference I see so far. Otherwise we will continue to decline much like we did under Rhodes
     
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  8. Inspector

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    I’m lowering mine because I’d hoped we could go up automatically, but unless we invest in January I can’t see beyond mid table. I’ve also resigned myself to Adams needing another 2 windows to get the team he can truly call his own.
     
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  9. How

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    I agree but he needs to start producing results and fast. I thought he was brought in because he can get results in this division, no matter the short comings in the squad?
     
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  10. WilsdenBantam

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    My expectations have already changed since the start of the season, I believe we’ll have the odd good game but more poor. A bit similar to Parkys first season in 11/12 but hopefully not as close to the drop. Adams hasn’t set the world alight but sacking manager after manager recently should have taught everyone a lesson, especially if you look back to that 11/12 season it showed even Parky isn’t a miracle worker. The place needs gutting, a lot of these players have already seen 3 or more managers and but for brief spells flattered to deceive.

    Unfortunately the biggest problem is still those at the top, whether it’s false promises to sell season tickets or accountant style running of the club it constantly feels like the club is in chains. Every business has to take risks even if relatively small ones or it won’t grow, that’s what we have seen over the years. Austerity.
     
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  11. How

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    Do you think the individual errors and goals and mistakes are down to our managers negative tactics and style? It adds pressure to a side who look low on confidence. If we continue to lump it like we did last night the pressure will mount on the players in a game and mistakes will continue to happen.
     
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  12. Inspector

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    Unfortunately he inherited a squad of youth players from our academy and youth players fresh from other academies lacking experience,. This happens to be in key positions within the team.
     
  13. Rudie

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    My expectations are already low at this point, need some serious work in the January transfer window to stand a chance of anything.

    If this season was to be a write off to set up for next season (as often as we’ve heard that) then so be it, but don’t hype up your fan base with promises and hope prior to the season starting.
     
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  14. Loyalbantam

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    All the newly promoted National League teams are out performing us and I’ve counted numerous established league clubs who’ve recently been in the National League also light years in front of us.
    The biggest mistake we made as a club was trying to avoid liquidation 20 years ago. I firmly believe if we’d have folded and started again we’d probably be better off.
    Let’s see where Bury are in 10 years. I bet they’re above us in the league.
     
  15. Tony Wilkinson

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    Won't take 10 years, believe they are starting just 2 leagues below us (could be wrong)..
     
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  16. Loyalbantam

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    The blinkers need to come off for some fans and understand that whilst we languish in league 2, Valley Parade is simply not affordable for us.
    Nothing we can do for the next 7 years but if we are still in the basement when the lease needs renewing then we really should leave. Before anyone asks the obvious question of where we’d play, the answer is I don’t know and don’t care so long as we do not commit to a long term lease we cannot afford whilst trying to assemble a competitive playing squad.
     
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  17. Storck

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    Which Bury? FC or AFC or both?
     
  18. Storck

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    New shared stadium with Barnsley in Ossett
     
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  19. Parader

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    I think we should get together with Barnsley and buy Gigg Lane.
     
  20. pns1945

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    Sadly when you see childish errors made game after game, you would think any of us on here capable of getting the message across. Training and coaching isn't addressing the issues we see weekly out there on the pitch and regardless of who is in control, that is my main concern.
     
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