Poll: If we don't go up, would you give Adams a second season, based on what we've seen so far?

It's no coincidence that each team promoted from non league seems to more than hold their own in league 2. Look at Barrow, Sutton, Harrogate, etc against clubs with no structure currently in place like traditional lower league clubs like Scunthorpe and Oldham. It doesn't take a lot to stand out in this woeful standard of a division, any team with a shred of ambition and with owners with a realistic game plan will more than likely get promoted.

 

Yes, the likes of Harrogate and FGR are run better than we are. You only have to look at their cycle of progression over the last 5 years compared to our cycle of decline. When I talk about structure, I don't mean the size of the ground, or having a digital scoreboard, or new seats in the dugout. I'm talking about having capable, interested and ambitious owner, CEO, a quality scouting and recruitment system

It doesn't matter what we're 'content' with or not. Ambition isn't about what your hopes are. Its about the manner of your actions and capability- and we're lacking in both.

 

Got to stop sacking managers every year. We are not Watford.

 

It’d be a no based upon what seen so far but I am willing to give him a second season-provided we don’t look like going down as this should give him more time to build a decent squad

 

it was Adams that brought in Songo'o and is playing him out of position
originally Adams played him as a CB before moving him to DM at Plymouth. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yann-songoo/profil/spieler/144341

it's Adams that is publicly slating new signings, it's Adams that is making public allegations about problems behind the scenes
we all know the squad isnt up to snuff. threkland played a horrid game not seen much of laverly either. personally i think hes a bit annoyed he was promised decent signings and its not the case. you are right he is making public allegations but when the crowd quickly turns on you like city do.

 

And herein lies the problem.Summed up in one highlighted word.
Until he becomes interested we will go nowhere.

 

Last season we were a very poor team that had a brief purple patch. That takes some turning and Adams has to be given at least another two transfer windows to do that. We wont go up this year so progress in terms of league position has to be made. Give him until Xmas 2022 and if we aren't challenging for promotion then, we need to start planning for a change in summer 2023.

Parky got that. The only reason to get shut any earlier is if our FL status is at risk.

 

We've been systematically broken for a while. A long while. We've not had properly experienced, proven football leaders running this club for years.

Parky came in and galvanised/organised the footballing operation. A proper fitness coach, scouts and contacts that allowed him to recruit well. But it all went with him.

Lets face it, we're a shit show. The owner isn't interested and we have a novice CEO, learning the ropes in difficult circumstances. Our long term and strategic answer to improving recruitment and identifying the right targets through a robust and data driven scouting approach - lasted 6 months. We have to hope Adams can rebuild this club and we have to accept its going to take time. I can fully imagine that whatever promises were made, or expectations were held when he arrived, have evaporated quickly. People make assumptions that we're a big club - don't make me laugh. If we're big, then that's purely about attendance and the ground that we rent. There isn't any other aspect of this club that's 'big'. We recruit poorly, we haven't really had scouts, do we even have a fitness coach any more?

 

January will cost a lot of money to bring in new players as we will have to pay some off before bringing recruits in due to the player cap, Will rupp fund that?

 

I love the fact people are confident of Bradford City actually staying. I know it's early in the season still..

But for me... The signs are there again. No vote for me.

 

I think the answer to most of the squads problems lies with who's idea it was to add a bench full of awful squad fillers to the wage budget, instead of bringing in a couple of quality players instead, especially seen as our youngsters are every bit as good as them to do the job. Same mistake we been making for as long as I can remember that's why I've given up years ago.

 

you could ask will he stay ... not sure he will I want him here but its has a bit of the Hopkin scenario about him...... stay yes will he not sure

 

2016-2018: Stuart McCall

2018: Simon Grayson

2018: Michael Collins (Head Coach)

2018-2019: David Hopkin

2019-2020: Gary Bowyer

2020: Stuart McCall

2020: Mark Trueman (Caretaker)

2020: Mark Trueman and Conor Sellars (Joint Interim)

2020-2021: Mark Trueman and Conor Sellars (Joint)

2021-present: Derek Adams

The problem isnt the manager. Ive held my opinion until now on the owners and upper management. I wasnt sure if it was going to be easy after Rahic to fix but its been 3 years and the last game was dire. The direness is not a one off its symptomatic and getting rid of Adams isnt the solution.

 

bang on.

 

Of course we stick with him and give him next summer to build his own squad. Remember with 20 minutes to go last Saturday everyone was delighted how we were playing against Bristol rovers. Now it’s “he’s lost the dressing room” etc after a shocker in midweek. Give him the time,he isn’t going to walk out and we won’t be sacking him, he has a three year deal and we have to be patient. Parkinson was hounded on message boards in his first season when we just avoided the drop, then he rebuilt after that first season

 

So say he doesn’t stay whether the axe falls or whether he walks away after not getting promotion. What then happens to Trueman? Would you give him the opportunity to go solo? Was he going solo last year did he have the deciding decision over summers I believe so.. or does he go too the whole state of our club is bazaar to say the least. Owner doesn’t like football thinks he going to get 10 million if sells??? Ground owned by a previous chairman who rents us it training ground is shared with a school need I go on. One thing for certain always something going on at Bradford city never boring

 

The same type that went to Bolton in a similar/worse position 12 months ago?

It won't be our circumstances that puts players off. It'll be a lack of willingness to pay the going rate to attract players of that calibre. Or actually being able to detect good players in the first place.

 

We got big earners from the wage-bill in the summer, we upped the season tickets, and budget still slashed.
Rupp's recouping all the money he can before bailing out in about three years.
They'll be no investment in January or next summer, other than the bare minimum, if DA can't get us up, no one will.
One out, one in is the clubs strategy
Regardless of how the CEO flowers it all up, that's the reality.