Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Players Coming Back

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by hornseabantam, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. BearBantam

    BearBantam Fringe Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2020
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    559
    Not sure if previous tactics or just down to ROD, but he never seemed that comfortable or able to make quick crafty decisions at getting the ball out quickly, or that effective at playing out to the back line. 50/50 but coming off the fence, my preference is Hornby.
     
  2. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,207
    Likes Received:
    14,464
    Agreed. Ok, Hornby is a bit rash on the old coming out front (a bit like Pickford) but he's doing ok. ROD's biggest fault is judging shots from distance, which the defence seem to have cut out. Not much between them, but possession is 9 tenths of the law and Hornby has possession.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Inspector and Offcomedun like this.
  3. weewhiskydram

    weewhiskydram Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2020
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    75
    I'd keep Hornby in, solely as competition for places is good, and someone should only be stripped of their place after a poor performance and so far I think he deserves to stay.
     
  4. Mickey bantam

    Mickey bantam Fringe Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    996
    Likes Received:
    1,632
    Hornby has done well since he came in apart from a couple of rush of blood to the head moments ,so I would stick with him plus the back 4 seem more settled with him behind them.
     
  5. Inspector

    Inspector Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    3,150
    Likes Received:
    7,037
    I think we’ve a decent squad but finding a fluent first 11 might take time and we might end up mixing and matching for the rest of this season.
     
  6. Ollylondonbantam

    Ollylondonbantam Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2018
    Messages:
    1,639
    Likes Received:
    3,464
    I think we’re fortunate in that we have two good keepers. What I like about Hornby is his speed off the line and distribution. He keeps momentum moving at the right times which suits the way we are playing at the moment. For me, he 100% keeps the shirt until his performances say otherwise.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Offcomedun likes this.
  7. Dratsab taf

    Dratsab taf Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Messages:
    1,536
    Likes Received:
    2,628
    I'm not sure about speed off the line, he was done at Exeter for the penalty due to being slow off the line and was very nearly caught the week before in the home game.

    Like said earlier pros and cons for both although do feel O'Donnell does concede some soft goals particular near post and outside box ones.

    What is the contract situation with both, do we stick with whoever is under contract for next year to create a bit of stability and understanding?
     
  8. borderlescott

    borderlescott Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Messages:
    4,853
    Likes Received:
    8,275
    We need a new number 1 next season for when we are challenging for the title.

    Just a solid, safe pair of hands who doesn’t come charging off his line like Hornby or have crisp packet hands like O’Donnell. A Colin Doyle type.
     
  9. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,582
    Likes Received:
    13,764
    Crisp packet hands? Sorry mate but that's nonsense. You can criticise him for his weakness of dealing with high balls into the box, which Hornby seems more comfortable with, but his reflexes and shot stopping ability is very good.
     
  10. Asafa

    Asafa Fringe Player

    Joined:
    May 26, 2018
    Messages:
    294
    Likes Received:
    697
    To be fair to him on the Exeter penalty, the bounce of the ball did him. If you watch carefully the ball holds up quite a bit, on a 'normal' pitch I fully believe Hornby would've collected it comfortably. Could maybe argue he should've read it better but thats not easy especially away from home.
    Agreed on the Port Vale game the week before though, was a little lucky.

    Personally think he should keep his spot, although I think ROD edges it slightly overall. 2 decent keepers at this level
     
    bryan groom likes this.
  11. Ulysses S Grant

    Ulysses S Grant Squad Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Messages:
    11,207
    Likes Received:
    14,464
    Edited that for you
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    borderlescott likes this.
  12. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,580
    Likes Received:
    2,914
    I would stick with Hornby for now. His speed of thought re distribution is good. A good shot stopper, seems to improve with each game he plays. Not perfect - name me a L2 keeper that is - in his positional sense, but again, with games under his belt that'll hopefully get better. On another issue with O'Donnell being in the first eleven. If and when he does return, Paudie or Canavan should be captain not him as a goalie. Goalie captains are a nonsense. How can they shout and inspire, read and see the action in the danger areas when they're stood on the goal line bloody miles away from what's happening further up the pitch?
     
  13. WilsdenBantam

    WilsdenBantam Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    Messages:
    6,973
    Likes Received:
    14,793
    Didn’t a goalie captain win the last World Cup and the 2010 one? Tbf I’d stick with Paudie though he could be our captain for a good few years to come if we move up the leagues with him.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Bronco likes this.
  14. vin weasel

    vin weasel Squad Player
    P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Messages:
    2,421
    Likes Received:
    3,226
    I liked the look of Canavan on Tuesday.
    Can't see us losing too many ariel battles now at the back with both him and Paudie.
    Both nearly combined for a set piece goal at the other end which was refreshing to see.
     
    loz likes this.
  15. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,580
    Likes Received:
    2,914
    You're right Wilsden. But I would say captains in world class teams aren't as important as they are in League 2. All the top teams have seven or eight 'captains' on the pitch whether it's by name or not. The very top players are naturally proactive. in our league, much more reactive. And then's when you need a big leader in the centre of the action. So totally agree with you about Paudie.
     
  16. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,582
    Likes Received:
    13,764
    I don't buy this argument. Like Trueman said in his press conference today, when O'Donnell is back in the side and captain again, Paudie's behaviour and leadership won't change. He doesn't need a piece of cloth to give him the ability to leed.
     
  17. hornseabantam

    hornseabantam Squad Player

    Joined:
    May 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,580
    Likes Received:
    2,914
    Still feel a goalie captain at L2 level is a waste of potential inspiration further up the pitch.
     
    Ulysses S Grant likes this.
  18. borderlescott

    borderlescott Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2018
    Messages:
    4,853
    Likes Received:
    8,275
    He’s let in a few soft ones this year which led to many to suggesting Hornby needed a run before ROD was injured. Now we’ve seen Hornby over an extended period though I don’t feel he’s any more solid though. He has had a tighter defence in front of him, which ROD didn’t benefit from earlier in the year.

    We can get by in this second half of the season with ROD though.
     
  19. loz

    loz Impact Sub

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2018
    Messages:
    1,757
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Can't remember Peter Shilton as captain{but have a lousy memory). He didn't half command his box though and every one of the defenders in front of him knew exactly what he expected from them even though he was only 18.
     
  20. JonButterfield

    JonButterfield Star Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    14,487
    Likes Received:
    24,341
    No, he doesn't need a piece of cloth, but if he had it at least he won't do an AOC and treat it with contempt.

    I mean, at least he's a little tougher when it comes to the stitching rubbing his arm ;)

    Not forgiven AOC for that.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice