Salary Cap

If there's something I don't like about any of the businesses you list. Whether that's the price, quality of what I'm purchasing or the service they're providing. I can find an alternative business that will provide me with exactly the same product for a better price or with better service.

That's impossible with a football club. It is, to all intents and purposes, a monopoly. I can't find an alternative source for Bradford City. The only choice a customer has is whether to make a purchase or not.

The institution that is Bradford City has been around for longer than anyone alive today. Hopefully, it'll remain so when we've all slipped this mortal coil. I expect that's why its internal structures and machinations are of more import than a pub or petrol station. It matters more than any other common or garden business and that's why people are interested in every single aspect of it. From its owner, to the kit the players wear and the beer and pies sold on match days.

 

Yes, and my point remains the same. Customers aren't normally overly concerned with the performance or profitability of a business. Football clubs are inherently different and the customers/supporters passionately care about how that business performs. Especially when an owner has overseen a fairly rapid decrease in results and performance. If the opposite had occurred and City were now thriving in the Championship. I doubt Rupp taking a purported dividend out of the club would have caused supporters to evenly slightly raise an eyebrow.

Of course there's other football clubs, that's a tautology. There isn't another Bradford City though and that was my original point. Nobody would lose any sleep if they could change their club the following morning without giving it a second thought.

 

This is good, well put points on both sides but I think we need a few childish insults just to keep it all at recent standards. No, only kidding, thanks gents, we can still discuss opposing points sensibly.

 

Nah, thats not how football supporting works, you pick a club and you're stuck with it. I've seen people support more than one club (which is weird) but they don't stop supporting their first club. I think my club is run like an amateurish joke at times but that doesn't mean i stop supporting them, you end up instead voicing your disproval on forums like this and social media.
As for Rupp possibly wanting to make a profit and take it out of the club, i have no problem with that if the very slim possibility did arise. With the McBurnie money and the new salary cap i'd be surprised if he hasn't made a little back so far, although i expect the amount to be small. In the long term the salary cap benefits him if he wants to stick around as Bradford will easily turnover enough to pay the cap and other costs such as ground rent. Admittedly his valuation of the club won't be anywhere near what he thought it was now.

 

Beginning of the end of the cap it looks like

https://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/2021/february/efl-statement-pfa-arbitration/

 

Could be but I would not be surprised if they rehash, involve the PFA this time with some minor appeasing, and the same olds vote it in again

 

Good riddance if so

 

Salary Cap withdrawn.

That lasted long.

Sparks will be gutted.

 

I was told that was likely to happen, the clubs and PFA had always held the belief it was unworkable in law.

 

Can we see any possible free agents coming in now the cap is not in place?

 

Sparks and City voted against it

 

Completely forgot the PFA were litigating against it, glad to see this result. Hopefully now they pack it all in. Its a backwards ruling. All it did was make it easier for little clubs to stay up or get promoted. If you have to spend more than your means to achieve your aims you shouldn't be doing it in the first place!

 

I haven't got the figures but I'm willing to bet that every successful football club in the last 20 years is either running at a loss or has been for the majority of its successful period.

 

you could be confusing debt and losses there; https://sqaf.club/premier-league-clubs-debt/
"Despite four of the so-called ‘Big Six’ featuring in the top ten here, Chelsea were the only of them to record an overall operating loss, with a £2 million deficit.
Between them, the other five recorded a £566 million operating profit, which was roughly two-thirds of the total which the 20 top-flight clubs posted altogether."

1) in leagues one and two we do not have the fees and wages that 'successful' clubs spend.
2) in the lower leagues I believe some 'successful' clubs are at a profit such as Peterborough and Brentford
3) ultimately wage caps don't prevent running at losses so I don't really understand your statement regardless.

 

Fantastic news!

 

Would players like Vernam, Rowe or Cook have joined us if the cap hadn't have existed in january?
I think not.
There are plenty of other teams with potentially higher budgets for wage than us.
They came because they knew that they would get an equal wage at a club where once the lockdowns were eased, would be a lot better to play in a full, large stadium.
This lifting of the cap makes us a poor club again and down the queue for the best players.

 

I do think we would have offered them more to get them here to be honest.
These guys all have already shown how happy they are to play for city.
We originally voted against the cap as we can complete financially.
That all being said your point is valid and Id expect Salford or Mansfield to get spending if it doesn’t get put back in.

 

Maybe they joined us knowing full well the cap would be lifted? I'd been told months ago it was highly likely it was going to be overturned.