Fans Back At VP - A Plan

It's as straight forward as you want it to be.

The Premier League clubs have an incredible wealth of resources, the balance is already tipped way too far in the favour of PL clubs, and the joke that is Championship teams finances underlines that argument perfectly.

HOWEVER, we're not talking about debt-riddled teams desperately overspending in a vain battle to reach the Premier League riches for a single season, are we? We're talking about small clubs in League One and Two that have hit an economic disaster.

There is no reason whatsoever that Premier League clubs should not help be able to collectively fund a pot of money for those that have been worst hit by a random, freak event (viruses have come and gone, but the damage has not been so severe in a century), all right bailing out badly run clubs who have spent millions more than they should with zero hope of ever getting it back is a different argument, but easing the burdens of the rest is entirely reasonable.

The top clubs have spent another small fortune YET AGAIN this Summer. That is simply not necessary on any level.

 

Our owner is worth around 100m(assets/cash). is he not.

He has decided not to invested in a new training ground or buy the stadium our anything. That's not down to Man Utd.

So why should the PL give the EFL money when the owners of these clubs including ours done use money correctly or have no plan.

 

Who is talking about us?

We are talking about the impending (or at least serious) threat of mass administrations in the bottom divisions.

But regardless of an owner's wealth, what matters is operational wealth. Top Premier League clubs have that in spades REGARDLESS of having no fans in the stadium.

The rest of the football pyramid does not.

 

Most of the owners of football clubs in the EFL have wealth.

Talk is the PL won't be lending money to all clubs..

Point is clubs like ours are failures..how many times have we heard the poor card? Why should the PL bail clubs out when clubs like Bradford City don't even invest to improve or protect themselves as a business.

 

Clubs like Macclesfield Town and Bury are failures.

Clubs like Bradford City are underachievers.

There's a world of difference.

Actually, nobody is holding the begging bowl out at Bradford City. Recalibrate your argument.

 

Not got the energy for you right now.

Point is a lot of EFL clubs don't spend the money correctly and Bradford City is a prime example of that as it owns NOTHING!!

 

I can't break this down properly tonight, and I probably won't disagree with much of what you wrote because I don't (particularly the last paragraph) - but there's a couple of plain truths I think need to be added here, 1) those figures clubs are losing might be frightening IF clubs weren't offering £100 m for a single player (those losses of 600m are evidenced as being pretty affordable by the brash nature of the PL transfer market), and 2) the EFL as it stands today is an absolute direct result of the actions of the Premier League since it was established. If the Premier League will wield power to ride roughshod over the EFL, then the EFL will necessarily become so weak it actually can't be of positive benefit to the Premier League, and will inevitably be at it's mercy. That, in my opinion, is a grand and longstanding oversight of the way the PL has been run, and does NOT absolve it of it's obligation towards the very league that propped it up in the first place.

If you would like a really easy example of how the Premier League has wielded such ludicrous power, you have only look at Jadon Sancho as an example. Manchester City signed Sancho from Watford as a kid for about £60,000, an embarrassing fee that was made legal by the shameful sham that is EPPP. Prior to that, clubs were agreeing deals far more lucrative to smaller clubs, and hence propping up the league FAIRLY, let alone clubs as big as Watford, but the bloodthirstiness of those seeking European and international success dictated that the lower leagues HAD to give up all of their resources for next to nothing.

When you do that, when the Premier League does that, there cannot therefore be any complaint that the rest of the league might need propping up in extreme circumstances UNFAIRLY.

I have zero sympathy for the Premier League teams being forced to give money away to the EFL, which they should, and which they absolutely WILL by hook, crook, or force. The Premier League has been run amorally for a long, long time, without any thought about long term objectives, without any understanding of long-term implications (ie, the collapse of the EFL), without any real plan for the long-term benefit of English football (ie, the international team), and ONLY about making it slightly more affordable for embarrassingly rich foreigners who will eventually depart, at which point all of this has helped nobody at all.

I'm reminded of the book 'Atlas Shrugged', which far from being a warning of what might happen if the richest decided to up and leave, is actually a cautionary tale of bowing to the apathetic rich in the first place - a trend which needs to be reversed in all sectors, let alone football.

 

Jon, you're right about the structure of finances, of course you are but the whys and wherefore are more personal than that and PL clubs are unlikely to lift a finger to help the EFL.
I have just got back from holiday but last weekend saw the interview with Lampard where he suggested the PL would help but he doesn't sign the cheques. Imagine his response when Roman says he can't spend millions on another player as the money has gone to the EFL!!
Likewise I heard the Sean Dyche interview "Amazon don't bail their small suppliers out, why should we". Nothing doing there then.
The PL meeting yesterday to discuss money to the EFL reached no decision. Kick the can down the road time.
I watched the Andrew Marr interview with the Minister for our game on Sunday, " Not the job of Govt."
It has started. I said on another post Southend, Oldham, Bolton are being talked about in the same breath as Macc and Bury. Dover likely to go this week, Merther mothballed for a season and Harrogate manager making noises yesterday.
I think you could be waiting a long time for the cavalry to come over the hill to save the game at EFL level, I hope you're right and I'm wrong, we shall see but the pack of cards is trembling and Rugby League may be about to fall first and we all know what usually happens then, it becomes an avalanche. Incidentally for all the carping on here I don't think BCFC will be caught in that Avalanche thanks to the guy so many of you persist in criticising.

 

The guys many are criticising are not improving the club though. What is our excuse for not improving off the pitch?As you know our current owner can afford to invest but doesn't. Rhodes and Lawn could have afforded to invest but didn't. To have no assets is totally unacceptable.

The best thing I heard at the weekend was Ryan talking about improving the players tunnel. It's like damn at last! We need a new CEO. We need a new direction and those that don't want to improve the club need to be moved on very quickly.

The Government want to know today which clubs say they are in trouble. I hope Bradford City are not going in there like billy big balls and admit that they need help. It will seem that only those in trouble over the next 6 months will get some form of support.

 

To be fair to Rhodes, and I'm not his greatest fan, the sell on agreed with Swansea has effectively saved this club from financial meltdown. Granted theres some fortune in Sheffield Utd throwing the Premier league money around but its still the biggest deal this club has had in monetary terms. Shame the only benefit we see of it is to be still happy just to have a club to support

 

The thing is when you watch that waste of time Heat of The Matter or whatever rubbish it was called then you get to see the mindset of the club. It's like lets play the poor card because it's Bradford but now it's lets play Rupp is the hero by @wetherbywhaler and others even though he is loaning the company but isn't investing in improving the club in anyway shape or form.

So he can afford to loan the club money to protect his investment but doesn't want to improve it. Is that what this is?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54352735
National League clubs to get a grant.

As I say I hope Bradford City are not playing we are good thanks. Man Utd and other PL clubs are losing a hell of a lot of money each week. People need to stop being fooled.

 

We still have nothing to show for that master plan though and some could argue it has held the club back from making process. You only need to look at our defence now and this season our best player is an 18 year old from the youth system. The Peterborough system works better which is to play them in the 1st team then sell them at maximum value.

Oh PL are not going to lend the EFL money without conditions. It's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this.

 

UK hospital admissions are now down 1/4 from their September 23rd peak. (Just under 400 to just under 300) The only region of the UK not falling is the Northeast of England and that looks more flat than up. Even there, the total in hospital fell. The September surge in cases must have been predominently young students. Yesterday's big deaths figure was mostly late reports from previous days. The death trend also looks like it might have peaked on Sept 23rd.

Http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

Can we go back to doing crowd tests, please?

 

You this but Borris isn't following. Remember he is following the scientist who are just scaring everyone! Oh and the media are loving it by selling on negativity also.