BRE

Handcuffs seems a bit harsh. But the police problem now is, damned if you do, damned if you don't - especially when its a black guy involved.

ps what was the car? Couldn't work it out. Looks like a big Merc SUV?

 

Irrelevant. People complain about speeding and parking fines, and when service is poor, or when food is late, or when something appears on TV.

I think being put in handcuffs and treated like a criminal over a mistake is unfortunate, and calmer heads will prevail in time, but in the heat of the moment?

Criticising BRE for his reaction or for sharing to social media is far pettier than anything he or his partner have done here. They were wronged.

 

In essense its a routine stop of a car with drugs and firearms markers, i guess from a previous owner. Police in this instance taking no chances by employing a taser and cuffs, can't be too careful where firearms are concerned. Driver o0f car takes umbridge to said use of cuufs and taser. Checks done and everyone goes on their way. Drvier then makes complaint which he is entitled to do if he feels he has been wronged.

 

They were wronged, maybe, as in they had done nothing wrong, the cops were only doing their job, why post it on social media , the whole reaction from the two of them was like a pair of jumped up chavs....er hold on a second

 

Hi. I can't actually work out what you are saying here.
People complain - yep I get that. Are you saying its right or wrong?
Handcuffs over a mistake. Yep I get that. Calmer heads will prevail in time, but in the heat of the moment? I don't understand. Do you mean BRE's reaction or the police?
Criticising his reaction. Ok. They were wronged. Ok - so you are saying the police are totally in the wrong for the way they handled this?

Just to stress - I am not arguing, or having a go. I am just trying to work out your reply.

 

She was perfectly calm and asking questions.

You need to watch more videos to see how chavs behave in that situation

Seriously though, the only reason people on here wouldn't post is they probably wouldn't record it - but I bet a fair few would add a comment or describe the event.

 

The world we now live in mate, first thought going through someones head these days is to whip out the camera phone and start filming.

 

I'm saying BRE's reaction is absolutely understandable, pretty normal, and in no way out of order - in the heat of the moment.

But he probably will cool it in a day or two.

 

Especially when two sportspersons had the same sort of trouble last week. And especially when racial profiling is on everyones minds.
On a lighter note (no pun intended), what a big fecker he is!! I thought you had to be six foot to get into the police, and he totally dwarves that copper next to him. Even more of a reason to arrest him for impersonating a footballer. Absolutely no excuse being beaten in the air when you are that size!

 

I hope so, because I hope he realised that the cops were only trying to do their job. If he was just randomly stopped, then he'd have a case, but if they can prove that the car he was driving had flags on it, then I think he should realise (and then have a word with the garage he bought if from).

 

why?

From my reading it is his plates that have been cloned, so his car is legal but someone else is driving round with a copy of his plates. If it was the other way they would have had the car

 

Thought it’d be obvious but okay I’ll spell it out.

The car and plates should have had a full check from the dealership before being sold, the fact this has happened tells me that they didn’t bother to or they could have informed the police themselves before selling the car onto someone.

 

Is it that unusual? I'm not sure of the protocols but I haven't heard of that many vehicles being pulled over by armed police just because of a tag, its normally more strategic and targeted when that happens isn't it?

On a side note if it as actually got that sort of tag on there BRE will want it taking off otherwise the poor fella is going to be continually going though that!

 

I'm wondering how relevant to the original stop the firearm marker is in this case as it seems they felt pretty confident pulling the vehicle over. Not the actions usually of local plod when a possible gun could be invovled.

 

Legal stop given the intel on the car, legally cuffed for police safety (note the size difference between the cop and BRE), relative size, strength etc. are justifiable factors in deciding whether to handcuff or not.

 

my reading was that they have been cloned recently and had the marker attached. Otherwise he would have been stopped previously.

Also, do garages have access to police markers on registrations? If so it defeats the point a bit as owners would be able to find out that police were tracking them

 

I’m not sure on your first point tbf, however when the dealership bought the car(presuming it was second hand) then checks should have been done. All I know is if I bought a car from someone like JCT 600 and got stopped only 3 weeks later for something like this I’d be going to see them about it, as I hope he will.

 

I do have sympathy for BRE, when I was 18 I was stopped on suspicion of a robbery at Apperley Bridge on my way up to Rawdon. They stuck me in the back of a police car, cars and vans either side of me all on a busy road for on lookers to gorpe at as they went passed. It’s humiliating and frustrating when you plead your innocence and it feels like they aren’t listening. That said I’d done nothing wrong and either had the police, both the car and my build and age match the description of the robber so they were just doing their job. So I calmed down by the day after, if the police didn’t pull me over they wouldn’t be serving the community and doing their job, same here. That said it is strange as others have said the armed police weren’t called, as the car was parked outside a shop maybe they thought they could ‘ambush’ him and get brownie points. Who knows but I’m sure it’ll come out in the report.

What I don’t like is all this posting on social media about it, feels like it’s done to incite hate into the police who are there to protect us. Social media is becoming one big which hunt, I just hope the police don’t apologise before any potential investigation like they did the other week. I’d want my employers to back me, I’m sure coppers feel the same atm.