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League 2 ends

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by MallorcaBantam, May 15, 2020.

  1. SimonW

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    No they won't because as we have seen over the last 15 years the EFL clubs will get greedy and add a massive English premium on for players who are largely raw and nowhere near PL level as the quality and modernness of the training isn't good enough. The PL clubs will once again look abroad (especially as its the last chance they may get before limits are in place on EU players) where clubs will sell better players who have come through their much more modern setups and be half the price because these clubs will also be needing to sell their assets
     
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  2. Idlebantam

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    So if league one do the same and vote for no relegation, what happens to Swindon, Crewe, Plymouth and the play off winners, denied promotion, or do we have a 28 club league 1 and 20 club league 2.

    I understand City were one of only 4 clubs that voted for relegation
     
  3. wetherbywhaler

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    Good point Idle. A short time ago Greg Clarke the FA Chairman said there was no way the FA would allow no relegation and despite the vote yesterday they have the final say so we will see if he's a man or a mouse. Having met him a time or two I fear the latter and a political one at that but we shall see. Sadly I hear some Bolton fans already think they are saved which can't be right in anyone's world.
     
  4. Fordy117

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    100% agree mate. No relegation is just wrong.
    How can Stevenage not be relegated when they have been deadful for over 3/4 of the season. It's also not fair on non league clubs. At least 2 clubs should be promoted from non league.

    How can Bolton not be relegated when they have broken the rules.

    I said this voting system doesn't work in this country. Leaders need to lead and make tough decisions. This trying to please everyone doesn't work. I haven't watched football for most of the season not to see teams promoted or relegated.

    The FA need to be strong and stick to what was said but they need to come out next week to make sure everyone understands relegation is happening for Stevenage and others.
     
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  5. Get Rid Of It

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    Well, if there is relegation Stevenage might want a word as with the Macclesfield points deduction they are only 3 points behind and a game in hand.
    Without any financial inducement why should Stevenage accept their fate, they can mount their great escape.
     
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    You can't have winners without losers in sport. Relegation must happen.
     
  7. Fordy117

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    Tough. The table was done by PPG and they finished bottom.

    It's an utter disgrace if they're not relegated.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    Why are they greedy because they have an asset that Premier League teams are chasing , good to tell you're a Man U fan Simon, market forces as Thatcher would say, believe in your scouting set up that's what they are very well paid for to scout young and up and coming talent who they believe will make the grade, rather than blaming the likes of Birmingham.
     
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    Hearing that one of the reasons why Stevenage won't be relegated is because no promotion from non league.

    I will be extremely argue of 2 clubs are not promoted and Stevenage not relegated.

    Now hearing Cheltenham who would be in the play offs complaining already and saying they need support to get testing for the play offs to take place. It's nuts!! For me the forfeit games of teams that couldn't play makes sense.
     
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  10. Storck

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    League One are now looking at extending the play offs to keep all the teams happy without playing out all the games.

    if they had done that in L2 we would have been in the play offs
     
  11. Fordy117

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    Sorry mate don't follow. Extend it how?

    I just believe with Cheltenham already moaning about cost of testing and wanting support I do believe forfeiting results for those that can't play would have been the best around.

    Div 2 should have waited. Don't see what the rush was. Understand non league but league 2 didn't have to make calls so early.
     
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    instead of just four teams they would have more.
     
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    We'd have only got beat, we were truly shite and didn't deserve a shot at the playoffs.
     
  14. SimonW

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    Because they ask for over the market rate for that player. If you can go and buy a player abroad of similar quality for a fraction of the price then the English player is overpriced. We see countless players with potential get stuck during the important years for their chances of developing into PL level players get stuck in the Championship or below because of the price tag attached to them.

    Someone like Jordan Rhodes for example. Scored loads at the majority of the clubs he was at and kept getting linked with PL clubs but clubs were constantly asking fairly silly money for him. Amounts that ultimately he would move for less than (although still silly fees) to an EFL club. Teams choose to go abroad and pick up players who played at higher level at clubs with better training setups for similar or less money. By the time Rhodes got in the PL via boro being promoted he had missed his chance to develop into a PL striker as he was having to learn that level at what should have been his peak (and boro couldn't afford to give him that time)

    Look at someone like Dan James, been a good squad addition to United but for almost £20mill he is really raw and technically is lacking in a lot of areas outside his pace.
     
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    Wonder what that would mean for the conference?
    Be a shame on hgate town to miss out.
    I never said they deserve to go up .
    I just stated it'd be a shame to see the miss out on the chance of promotion.
    I quite often watch harrogate as I'm a harrogate lad, think they're 3 or 4 points behind and were due to play Barrow at home so it could be very close.
    They've put a lot of effort into getting promotion including building new stands to fit into league regulations.
    Hope they pull through this shit .

    As it will be a shame for any club who falls because of the pandemic
     
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    Dan James is one Utd best player. Utd are not in the position to moan and let's be honest their recruitment over the last few years has been shocking and now it seems they want to spend 30m on a 16 year old from Birmingham.
     
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    L2 have been given a lot of media credit for yesterday, apart from the no relegation issue which the FA should resolve.
    Rochdale come out with a stop the season comment today as have Rotherham who believe if it goes to the expected vote L1 will also finish.
     
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    2 clubs with agendas.

    For me div 2 didn't come out with any credit. The relegation issue needs dealing with then we will judge league two.

    No one from league 2 has come out and explained how next season will take place... because it won't for them.
     
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  19. Bronco

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    They ask what they think they can achieve the best deal for the selling club, no sympathy for Premier League clubs many have certainly paid way over the odds for foreign players Man U have made some very poor choices in the past Falco, Di Maria, Pique, Forlan, Veron, Tailbi,Tosic, Bebe, Anderson, Kleberson, Depay,
    as I posted you have directors of football, chief scouts and others who get very well paid for making the correct call on transferred players
     
  20. SimonW

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    No he isn’t though. He is effective as a blunt tool but he is massively 1 dimensional right now and hadn't really been that effective for a while as teams had largely adjusted to nullify his pace
     
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