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Rahic Interview

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Nick_W_, May 18, 2018.

  1. Inspector

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    That’s untrue @Fordy117@Fordy117. The pitch, the development squad, the ticketing system, the hospitality suites. That’s to be saluted.

    What you and I want is more investment in the first team. I applaud them for what they’ve done off the field but hope the same effort is put into getting out of this division ASAP.
     
  2. hippo

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    Well that's a fair point. I think there were many times during the interview where they could and should have probed further. e.g. the Hendrie/Yeovil thing. The lads did their best to not shy away from the awkward questions but came up short imo. I suppose they would say there was a lot of ground to cover in limited time. Hopefully if we are to get some of more of these types of interviews (perhaps another reason for them to go slightly easy on him) we'll get to the bottom of some of these issues.
     
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  3. Bantamigo

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    Thought it was a really good interview and Edin came across well.
    The only people that are going to drag this club down are the negative morons who seem to get off when we’re struggling.
     
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  4. BaildonBantam

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    Insightful interview, you get the strong feeling that they have a long-term vision which they won’t compromise on, even at the expense of short-term goals. Will be interesting to see whether a football club run as well as a business translates into success on the pitch.
     
  5. Bruce Bannister

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    To be honest i have not bothered to see the interview, i do not trust the man full stop, he's a full on bullshitter.
    He bought the club to make money for himself nothing else. R&R will not put any of their own money into the club, we are stuck either in league one or league two, there is no moving forward with these in charge, It should work both ways, last season they sold 18000 season tickets because the supporters backed them, but did they back the supporters by spending any of their own money, no, so now it's backfiring on them and it's us the supporters that it hurts, not them, they could not give a shit about us, they are totally blinkered especially Rahic, his sole intention is to make money for himself.
     
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  6. BingleyBantam

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    The club’s infrastructure has been broken since “Admin 2” so for me the work to get the club ready for the Championship has to be on AND off the pitch. We have no choice to back the club and hope it works but it’s not going to happen overnight.

    Let’s be honest English football is broken. Without the gamble of millions been thrown at a 1st team to get promoted and then 10’s of millions to stay in the Championship...unless you know of a stupid billionaire in West Yorkshire willing to throw their money away at a plan that may not work, then the club has to try a different approach. Yes, until the toothless EFL really enforce their FairPlay Finance regulations then we are at a disadvantage like the majority of the EFL.

    Big budgets don’t guarantee promotion. Bury & MK Dons have just dropped into League 2 with massive wage budgets.

    Enjoy the summer, the World Cup and let’s look forward to August.
     
  7. Just Looking

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    A local college? A local college that anyone can basically attend. As opposed to a private school, which costs a lot of money.

    Any club can hook up with colleges, but going to a private school is a huge difference. And that’s the point.

    I’d like to know how many clubs, inc Guiesely, actually send their youth players to a private school costing around £15k a year. I bet it’s not many.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    But by Edins own admission that is not a priority, he wants the new man to understand his philosophy that we develop kids (who the rest of football have missed) introduce them into the first team where their going to better things, and we sell them on at a profit which is then reinvested in better first team players, why not keep the young kid we developed and build around him surely that would be the more sensible way ?.

    With regards your above the suites, ticketing, pitch ETC they had to bring every one of those areas up to date, Edin said himself they were off field areas that needed to bring in extra revenue, people would be reluctant to hire a suite for an occasion that was in poor repair.
    The ticketing system was becoming an embarrassment to the peope working with it and the club generally, the pitch need we go over that again, they knew the situation before they bought the club they had seen it for themselves when they visited, they watched the FA Cup games and must have been aware of the comnents every FA Cup opposition manager said about the pitch ( knowing they might get beat) so most of the above stuff they knew needed doing to take the club forward on the non-footballing side, the pitch had to he done once the FL got involved.
     
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  9. The Original EB

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    At long last it is pleasing that he has given an interview and is prepared to do it again.
    According to him the Yeovil defeat ruined the January transfer window but he has used the assumption that if City had won we would play Manchester United. No we wouldn't ,we could have been drawn out of the bowl to play Newport County..
     
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  10. Bronco

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    I'm sure the Hendrie debate will never be made know publicly because at the end of the day no matter how the situation ended the deal was not acceptable to Burnley, now why it was not acceptable is another debate.
    I'm not a fan of T&D but it was great that they got a one on one interview, and Edin suggested it should be done more regularly which can't be a bad thing.
    Maybe any future interviews need doing by someone who has no ties with the club and as you and I agree could be more probing with their questions and question Edins replies, what about Jeremy Paxman :).
     
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  11. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    Clearly Guiseley don't do that........
     
  12. Just Looking

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    I would have thought they didn’t, but @Bantamsteve@Bantamsteve says that even they do do it. So it must be true.
     
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  13. Jam

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    The term 'springboard for success' comes to mind, not heard it for a while but it's a term with merit.

    It looks like there was something fundamentally flawed with the way the club was run and financed as has been alluded to by the fans as much as anyone. This takes time to sort out. If success is wanted it also needs to be maintained and it became obvious that our flawed system needed a serious overhaul in order to achieve those aims. This takes time whether that is popular or not. The winning mentality is, or should be, present throughout a club from owners right down to the supporters and can lead to pressure on the players and impatience in the fans. Such is life.

    One of the complaints that keeps cropping up is that SM was sacked with us in the play off places. Does anyone seriously think that would have been the case at the end of the season? I posted at the time of the appointment that it was courting disaster a decision ruled by the heart rather than the head to me. At some stage in this game a club legend is bound to let you down, we all know the shelf life of managers in modern professional football. For him to continue as things were could have sent the club into a 'freefall' situation so it needed to be remedied.

    As to Simon Grayson although some placatory statements have been put out about him maybe staying not many seem to consider that just maybe the reality was that he was just here till the end of the season to perhaps put a little shape and fight back into the team. On that point he may have just succeeded, certainly wasn't an easy task at the time.

    Money paid for transfers. When was the last time City paid those sort of monies out for players? Whether the club got it right or wrong, as happens even at the highest level, it shows an intent too few are giving credit for, in fact after all the seasons of frees and loans many seem to have forget we now start to wonder what the transfer budget is for the coming season??

    The pitch did have some work done on it, I'll not argue on the date as I can't quite recall. What I am reasonably certain about is that it was short term remedial work which I feel the state of the pitch as was would bear out. Now we are putting in deep and serious drainage which should clear the problem up in the long term and was in my opinion a serious priority.

    The improvement in the training facilities at Rawdon Meadows which I would guess will fit in with our agreement to be there is also another positive step and so beneficial to the club. Once again monies spent and spent long term for the benefit of the club's health.

    Some of the forum members who work in management/accounts must surely know that root and branch reform is always painful and is never undertaken unless necessary. Some have commented that under the previous ownership we lived from hand to mouth with an unhealthy requirement for cup runs or players being released by other clubs because of sell on clauses. This ethos as well as the financial nightmare it leaves behind does not disappear overnight. The lack of investment all round has caught up with the club and left the new owners little choice but to address it.

    The idea being mooted that for some young players their contract be tied to education (and/or training in other skills I would add personally), is very commendable and perhaps deals with the cliche of a footballers career being a short one. Nothing short sighted about that either.

    So the idea that the club is 'going to the dogs' or that the owners are stuffing suitcases full of cash to be forwarded to the Cayman Islands does not bear scrutiny and is distinctly counter productive. It's obvious that monies are being spent well at the club, the only real problem being that it may try the notorious impatience for immediate success of the average football fan to the limit.

    To counter the argument about spending on the team I will just that at least we are prepared to pay some transfer fees, the first time in a long time, and then refer you back to the beginning of this post and the old saying 'springboard for success'.
     
  14. CT Bantam

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    It is if we have an end to the season like we had last time mate.
     
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    Its all well and good saying they had to upgrade all the non playing infrastructure but so did Lawn and Rhodes yet they never did. So how about giving the new owners some credit for fixing what should have been done by the previous owners. ?
     
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    Hope you never get called up for jury duty. "i won't bother listening to the defendant because i've already decided he's guilty"
     
  17. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    They do get credit for that. However, 5000 didn't renew their season tickets because of the product on the field. Not because we've got a new ticketing system.

    It's a long term plan. Unfortunately, I can't see us getting promoted in the next 5 years with this strategy, on the field.
     
  18. Bruce Bannister

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    Leopards never change their spots and he will never change.
     
  19. hippo

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    Agree with you about Hendrie debate and it's probably time to move on from it anyway. Having said that don't think T&D should have let him get away with the 'I wasn't there' line. Agree with you about the no ties idea as well. Edin admitted in the interview he's had no media training and at times it showed. Paxman would have him for breakfast. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
     
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  20. Bantamsteve

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    Work it out
    20 youth team players ( who may never make the 1st team let alone command a transfer fee) education at 15k a year for 2 years min
    or boost the first team squad by the same amount who get half there wages in bonuses and should be proud to play for an ailing L1 club
    I know which I prefer
     
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