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Sack the manager

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rcbantam, Aug 24, 2019.

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Is it time for Bowyer to go....

  1. yes

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  2. no

    63 vote(s)
    20.1%
  3. dont know

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  1. Petrov

    Petrov Squad Player

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    I think he is so desperate to do well for his hometown club that he's trying a bit too hard. He just needs to relax and go back to how he was playing in the first couple of games and the goals will come.
     
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  2. How

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    This is always worth a bump to oust some.

    6th in table. Good win today. Love Bowyer
     
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  3. NorthernMonkey

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    I'd be careful with the gloating, a few weeks can be a long time in football.
     
  4. WilsdenBantam

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    One half’s a long time on here. Just look at the comments before we went 2-1 up the the match thread yesterday.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    But there is always one constant on here, I think it will take a promotion to win him around ;).
     
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  6. Tolly856

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    You can't point score after every win and then get upset when the "morons" do it after a defeat.
     
  7. vin weasel

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    Top 3 is what it will take imo.
    Defeat in the play offs either semis or final won't be enough for many.
     
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  8. Storck

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    Exactly.

    It is a two way moron fest
     
  9. Bronco

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    Auto would be great, this is not having a go at Bowyer or the players but as yet I've only missed the FG game at home and we have not looked convincing in any game poor half followed by a good half.
    Yesterday we were very similar first 15/20 minutes Carlisle were the better side it took the sending off to make the difference.
    It looked to most fans Bowyer had told them at half time keep the ball keep probing and we'lL be OK, and that is exactly how it was until Evertons rush of blood.
    I see no reason why with a bit more consistency we can't claim an auto spot, but if push goes to shove I'll take a day out at HA9 8BQ ;).
     
  10. Steeton

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    First time this season he picked the correct team. if he keeps doing that and playing with wingers then I won't be critical of him.

    Previous line-ups and tactics including the wins he got wrong. He got it right yesterday and I hope he sticks to it.
     
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  11. How

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    I was saying the same things when we lost. Bowyer is a good manager

    No point scoring here. Just consistent
     
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  12. How

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    he got it wrong and we still won? baffling
     
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  13. Petrov

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    Look, it's simple. Getting it right and losing is preferable to getting it wrong and winning, everyone knows that.
     
  14. Tolly856

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    Not for the first time I have no idea what you're on about.

    Waving your dick about to make a point against those with different viewpoints to your own is pointscoring. It's no different to the "morons" doing after a defeat, or when we're in amidst of an Inevitable run of bad form. A two-way, never ending cycle that you're part of, but seemingly dislike when the shoe is on the other foot.
     
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  15. banbrotam

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    Unfortunately, we seem to have a significant majority on here who have the same self entitlement issues as clubs like Sunderland etc

    With Sunderland, at least they've got far more of a 'right' to moan - they're in a division that they rarely occupy, have a boatload of money (compared to the 20+ of their rivals) and blew it last season and are still as frustrating this season

    With us, frankly I'm sick of the Bowyer doubters and moaners. Frankly, I'm struggling - given last season, to understand how much better they think anyone else would have done. Note, that none of relegated rivals are anywhere near us in the table - showing again, just what a piss poor and awful division this is, when you've been used to playing at a higher standard. It requires a touch mental approach, which is far more important that your ability - certainly in the first third of the season

    It's the glass half empty moaning that does it for me.

    Several examples. Here's just a three

    1. Very little about the fact that we've come back from a goal down twice in consecutive home games (something we hadn't done for 20 months) lots about our starts. Even criticism about yesterday, isn't totally correct - we actually played well for the first five minutes, t's lazy negative thinking to make out (as some have) that it was most of the first half
    2. OTT reaction to that poor 20 minute spell (from about the 5th to the 25th) yesterday, without remembering that goals often changes the tempo of a match and lots of teams, even the best ones, can be hesitant shortly after conceding
    3. Worries about our defending, without seeming to realise that Carlisle's gung-ho policy (in comparison to what we've seen!!) gave us loads of attacking opportunities, i.e. attacking wise that was the best we've played


    This team isn't perfect, but we're sixth and have a never say die attitude that is remarkable when you consider how poor that was even under Bowyer last season. I don't see how anyone can't be anything but positively emotional when you see the 36 year old Donaldson still running for that final ball and doing the correct thing in providing the pass and then noticing he was too knackered to celebrate, having played 3 games in 7 and a bit days. I seriously haven't seen that since the end of the 2015/16 season

    Clearly, as someone alluded to on another thread, Bowyer is been judged harshly, because he didn't save us from relegation last season. Now I get it!! Never mind if he's the right person at the right time - he was in charge when we got relegated so he's going to cop for it!!! Because someone has to don't they? As his critics (the half glass empty brigade) simply can't or maybe refuse to move on

    I'd go as far to say that, to me, Bowyer is the best thing that's happened to this club since Parky joined and I look forward to getting the abuse that this comment will generate. I got it around the time we lost 4-0 to Rotherham, seven seasons ago, when I dared to defend Parky. I was happy to be proved right

    I'm just pleased to have a team with a bunch of players who actually are motivated enough to run / chase until the final whistle. I actually thought it would take months, as Scunthorpe are discovering (until next week :rolleyes:) to get that true team spirit back

    So far so good. We can do better and I expect us to do so
     
  16. banbrotam

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    Paudie, Vaughan, Cooke, Donaldson, Richard Everton, Connolly, Cooke, Prichard, McCartan. L2 average?? I can think of more, but that will do for now!!

    Name me 11 teams who've got nine players who are better (and before you baulk at McCartan, remember his help he gave Lincoln and how he catapulted Accrington up the table in the season before the joined us)

    Yet another who seems to think that we have a divine right to dominate this "shitty" L2. We don't.

    And regarding Parky coming back who are you to speak for all of all us. "We all know that" Do we? What possible reason could they be for sacking Bowyer, even assuming Parky would come.
     
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  17. banbrotam

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    We dislike the moronic criticism because it is so far from the reality of what's really happening. And hence will comment about it

    There are fans on here, that think we should sack Bowyer and bring back Parky. Is that not something that can't be questioned? Or are us those of us who are happy with Bowyer, wrong to question such a barking mad ideam

    And we'll also then remind those, er 'passionate fans', about a win - to point out it's not all bad

    Finally, what's wrong with making a point against those with different viewpoints? Some seem to want a forum, where everyone agrees with anyone and can't call anyone to task for their comments.

    I have loads of arguments with people on these boards, but they respect my right to an opinion no matter how laughable it might be

    I suggest you become a little less sensitive
     
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  18. Tolly856

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    I'm not really interested in which camp is right or wrong, what's justified and what isn't. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy in a poster who's now become obsessed with doing what he calls others out for.

    That's a cracking post you've written above btw. You'd have written something similar if we were 24th, but a good post nonetheless :thumbup:
     
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  19. trevor

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    well a couple of things here, I have posted doubts about GB for his selection, formation tinkering and tactics in some games earlier in the season but to be fair to him we have to give him credit for building a team in a very short period with 14 players he signed too build in to a team so credit to him for that and the fact he is at last playing a decent system and getting some consistency in team selection even if he will tinker at times,
    Those that include last season in his judgement are wrong, The damage done to moral of the playing staff by the previous manager was so deep it was irreversible and the best he could do was try to rescue the players he thought could be an asset to him this season, Most of those players had already left the club in their heads and were just finishing the season and collecting pay,
    It is early days but he deserves our backing and to be cut a little slack and room to make us successful
     
  20. Idlebantam

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    Probably the best post I have seen of yours on here
     
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