Stuart return?

Based on results- Bloody no he shouldn't
Based on performances- No he shouldn't

You're being lazy!!

He needs to prove himself and he hasn't as yet!

 

That's Lee Johnson who lost a club record eighth successive league match in front of "Johnson Out" banners at Bristol City in January, 2017. To the Bristol City board's credit they stuck by him. I wouldn't have and, if you're complaining about Bowyer after four matches, I doubt you would have either.

 

I don't know why people argue with Fordy. You know he's going to be knee jerk and negative with no sense of perspective.

You can almost guess what he's going to say before he says it.

 

All managers get stick at some point but my point is you need a manager with a vision and plan.

We seem to lost our identity! We need a manager who has a plan and football identity.

Bowyer signed up for 11 games mate.. he signed that contract! He might of suggested it himself we don't know.

 

I love you!

Did you know if was going to say that?

 

bring McCall back for the rebuild job.

he shouldn't have been sacked in the first place so do the right thing and bring him home.

 

Agreed. Stuart has had two bites of the cherry with us and (putting aside Rahic...difficult I know but we have to be hard nosed here) he failed first time to even make the playoffs and, with an excellent team, failed to get us promoted second time, first season and in his second season he openly admitted he didn't know what to do when we hit a slump.

He has now failed at Scunthorpe with excellent backing. Clearly the Scunthorpe board looked in his eyes and did not see someone who they felt knew how to resolve the situation.

I would repeat your the question. What makes supporters of a SM return think that he is the right man to get us promoted when all the evidence before us points to someone who has failed to do this not just for us but also for another team in a similar situation.

Sad but at some point we have to realise that Stuart is not a manager at this level....I don't know where he goes from here, hopefully not back to us, there have been too many failures.

 

What, from his managerial career, suggests he is a suitable candidate for a "rebuild job"?

What, from his managerial career, suggests he is a suitable candidate to turn round a club that is on a significant downward trajectory?

What, from his managerial career, suggests he is a suitable candidate to successfully manage a club in league two?

 

I don't understand how we can have it both ways. We complain that Rupp wasn't involved enough and let Rahic steer the ship into the iceberg and then, when it suits the agenda, it is his fault, he put have been involved and he is equally responsible.

I firmly believe that Rupp is the money man. He let's those in charge get on with their job and doesn't interfere.

With regard to managers. I

don't want Parky back, I DEFFINETLY don't want Stuart back. One got us success but left for pastures new and the other hasn't actually won anything in two stints with us and now has another failure in his locker at Scunthorpe.

Time to move on.

 

Motherwell FC.


the last time we were any good, Stuart was in charge. the players respond to him. the crowd love him. right the wrongs and bring him back.

 

Bronco

Your point is well made but we have given Stuart two bites of the cherry and (there will be disagreements on this) he has ultimately failed to delivery in both stints. He ha now failed to deliver at Scunthorpe. Sheff Utd, Rangers and no doubt others took a look at him as manager and said no. His time at Motherwell was good and then when it went downhill (not unusual for any manager I grant you) but there is a theme developing here you have to agree.

Regardless of what happened last time with Rahic if you had a manager that on two separate periods of employment at your firm had failed to delivery on the plan and his previous employment history both before and after his time with you had also ultimately failed....would you bring them back for a third try?

I would be surprised if you said yes!

I also think that he has become a bit toxic for Bradford City. He spit the support when he was left/fired on both occasions. We are 15 or so months down the line and there are still some pining for his return but his record does not suggest that he would be a success in Div 2.

I think that Stuart needs to swallow his pride and see that his position is as a number 2. Close to the players, advice to the Manager/head coach. Out on the training pitch, putting his arm around shoulders etc etc.

In my book this firing should put the nail in the coffin of his Head Coach/Manager career and, hopefully, talk of him coming back here as Head Coach/Manager.

 

I'm not entirely sure how anyone can say with any degree of certainty that Gary Bowyer is 100% the right man for the job based on what we've seen from him so far, but wouldn't touch McCall with a barge pole. that makes no sense.

 

Get over your love affair with ginger Scotsman! His time has been and gone, thank god!

 

He once got to a Scottish Cuo final and don't you know?

I'm not overly sure how long people can cling to a couple of years when that league was in turmoil.

People don't call for Peter Houston to be given the job to rebuild us despite is achievements being arguably better. I doubt many people even knows who he is!

I suppose we can ignore that every time he's been manager here we've ended up with a mentally weak, outwardly unprofessional and ultimately unsuccessful team.

 

There are no guarantees with any manager as we are seeing now.
Phil Parkinsons manageral record was not great but he came in and got enough points to keep us up, then got rid of the players he felt didnt fit his "player profile".
It would be interesting to know what Julian/Stefan offered Bowyer if he keeps us up ?.

 

You can’t say any manager is 100% the right man. If Stuart didn’t have the emotional pull with Bradford, and i’m as guilty as anyone as i love the bloke, then i guess the majority wouldn’t even think about giving him another chance. He was well backed at Scunthorpe and it still didn’t work.

 

Yes and yes and yes to all your points but none of that changes the fact that Stuart should not, I believe, be brought back to Bradford City in any capacity other than maybe an 'Ambassador' in the pre-match lunch suite. No I am not being disrespectful, tongue in cheek maybe, but there is simply nothing in his track record that shows he has the capacity to turn around failing clubs.

 

one has a history of building a side capable of promotion from league two whilst working under difficult circumstances, one doesn’t.

 

I daresay Bowyer does indeed have a vision, and plan. What he (and the last 3 Managers) doesn't have, is a committed squad of players who will neither share or want to be a part of those.

If you have a toxic substance, you can drown it in as much water as you like. It won't cleanse it, just dilute it.
That is to say ........ So long as this 'core' of players remain at VP, the toxicity will be with us, no matter how many loan players you throw at it.