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Injuries - bad luck, or poor preparation?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. JonButterfield

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    The injuries are used to excuse our poor form, so I'm just interested to see what people think the injuries are all about?

    Bad luck?
    Injury prone players?
    Or poor preparation?

    Theres no denying preseason was pathetic, and very poorly organised. The lack of staff at our club has been an issue for me since Stuart left, with coaches few and far between compared to other clubs. Has a lack of focus on fitness and preparation really hurt our season so far?

    Or is it less about ineptitude, and more something else?

    What's the reason?

    Is there one?
     
  2. Damo

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    Used to ask this about Arsenal and they have access to the best resources
     
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  3. marshy77

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    Lack of preseason won't have helped but I think (could be wrong) only Doyle and J O'Brien have been injured since Hopkin was appointed. Both older so may be having some reaction to now having to over train?
     
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  4. Briggus

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    Always a risk that you should always mitigate as well as you can. The lack of continuation with a fitness coach through pre season up to a week or two back did not help at all Jim O'Brien been played continuously with out a proper pre season was going to attract some sort of a strain. Also I feel that we have signed players e.g. Chicksen and Akpan who do have a poor injury record - so more care should be taken in signing these sort of senior players.
     
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  5. Fuzzy

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    You'd have to say that losing Mellor and Wright to soft tissue injuries in Hopkin's first game in charge when they were required to run around a lot for the first time this season looks suspicious given the seemingly relaxed approach to pre season. O'Brien is another one who hasn't really had a pre-season or played much football since last May so perhaps not surprising that after 4 games in 11 days and his high intensity style of play, he too has ended up on the treatment table.

    However, we have picked up a lot of impact injuries which are just down to bad luck.
     
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  6. RonnieBrown

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    I think poor preparation is a leading contender - The fact that Hopkin has had to 'start from scratch' is testament to that. However, we can't dismiss other issues, which may be bi-products of a poor preseason. Certainly I felt the players attitudes were wrong, in their willingness to apply themselves in their performances. Recruitment was not structured, and this is glaringly obvious by all the positional 'holes' not covered in our 1st team squad.
    We can only hope our fortunes change, and we are able to maintain those improved levels.
     
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  7. Fuzzy

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    Akpan has previously dislocated his shoulder a couple of times and that is the type of injury that can reoccur. Not sure that Chicksen having his leg broken is due to being injury prone, I think that the red card lunge from the other player is the only culprit with that one.
     
  8. Briggus

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    're chicksen his record for us and previous clubs show he is injury prone. Yep you cannot legislate for poor tackles for his latest injury.
     
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  9. Bronco

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    Didn't Rory McArdle get his shoulder pined for similar reasons.
     
  10. Fools Gold

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    We signed a load of cheap shite that’s why we are in the state we are in
     
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  11. Park bantam

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    There is nothing that can prevent injuries like Akpan dislocated shoulder but muscle injuries can be minimised by good training and conditioning
     
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  12. Faithful Bantam

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    Well I’m not saying our lack of fitness coaching professionals and amateur pre season is anything to do with it....
     
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  13. MickyFinn

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    I'm ex-Navy, medical officer, you got our foot into the guys armpit, gave the arm a good pull, bingo, arm back in its joint, give the guy some pain relief & he's back to work the following day, no probs. Follow-up with painkillers & exercise if necessary, Usually didn't come back. Didn't realize footballers need an arm to kick a football or challenge for a ball even though they feel some residual pain.
     
  14. Fuzzy

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    Easy to say if you work in a profession where arms aren't essential when it comes to being the very best ;-)

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    Best footballer?
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  15. Damo

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    Right now I want you to jump up and pretend to head the ball. Did your arms stay by your side? Next time try running? If your arms stayed by the side you are either Michael Johnson or a bit weird. Run against a wall? Etc. Any arm injury or pain severely affects mobility and thought process.
     
  16. RonnieBrown

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    Quite true. Injuries are not predictable !! ....... IF they were, they wouldn't exist, as we would avoid any situation which were to invite them, beyond common sense that is.
     
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  17. RonnieBrown

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    That's all fair enough, MF. However, Forces are a different 'ball game' in this rancid age of blame for a claim.
    'In the field' meant you did your best with minimum resources, and through peer pressure did not complain as a 'victim' of circumstance. I, like many ex 'vets' have a self healing attitude ...... In that you sense something is not right, and address that problem without the need to seek immediate medical attention.
    The NHS would not be as stretched as it is, if the world had fewer wimps ! (Tin hat time, for me).
     
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  18. bantam2708

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    JOB has a hamstring tear and out for 4-6 weeks.

    Jones may get a checkatrade game next week.

    Reeves has pain in his groin again.
     
  19. Rogered Tart

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    O’Briens injury can be attributed to the way he plays and the fact he has been playing catch up in terms of competitve game time. Had he have been signed in the summer this injury would likely not have happened. We are reaping the reward of a shambolic pre season with coaches not fit for purpose.
     
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    I think its more a pain in the arse with Reeves, don't think he realy wants to be here,
     

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