Head of recruitment

By all accounts, we've been able to afford the budgets we've given Hughes, so there should be no need to instantly shrink them - at least that's the line we keep getting fed.

We'll see.

Axing Hughes and Hodges won't come cheap, though.

 

I'd be surprised if they were sacked, for that very reason, if we keep making poor appointments that we need to pay off it will eventually have to impact the playing budget, or budget for the backroom staff.

If he doesn't resign (and I don't think he will) I think he'll be here until his contract runs out and isn't renewed.

 

Wow, his contract runs until the end of next year, I believe?

But I agree with you on principle. This is a tough spot for Sparks, as his commercial success is up in smoke with a big pay off.

There's absolutely no sign from Hughes that he's resigning, so it's either Sparks bites the financial bullet, or he bets his job on Hughes turning it round as the cheaper option.

 

Don't tell him it was a shambles. Poor old Greg doesn't like the truth.

 

the manager. It is a structure that makes sense if the top dogs at the club have no idea on football like Rupp and Sparks. But the DoF must be a good appointment otherwise you are forever doomed.

rupp will more likely give it to Gent and promote than externally recruit, just as he did with the CEO role!

 

Nail, head, hit for me of what would one bring BL.? What is a good director of football? A poor coach, a poor man manager, a poor tactician etc. Or his he /she a decent coach, a decent man manager and a brilliant tactician ?

If he’s the latter then why isn’t he a manager/ coach in a job ? . If he’s the former he is not qualified to oversee nor select a manager . See what the conundrum is?

I don’t personally understand the need if the DoF has zero accountability in selecting the “ right man “ for the job if he’s not qualified to determine the right man for the right job in the first instance.?

Let’s say hypothetically, a DoF recruited MH. ( One CANNOT knock his previous credentials no matter what others claim) . MH has turned out to be not as good as we or the DOF thought.
So we sack em BOTH, wrong choice made by DoF because he also “believed” his choice was the right one and MH for his worse than expected reign.

What are the qualifications necessary to actually be a DoF as a starting point?

 

Well I suspect they may differ for different clubs depending on priorities and over different time periods.

 

I think the theory is that the director of football is responsible for establishing a football philosophy and strategy.

The chairman appoints a DoF but normally retains the responsibility choice on manager too. We are an unusual case, though, as Rupp is merely a sleeping investor with no interest in the sport, so maybe our DoF would pick our boss?

Barry Fry at Peterborough is a good example. Posh sack managers regularly but their ethos of attacking football and developing players to sell on, remains unchanged.

McAnthony is in the states but at least Fry is around to act as a sounding board for the manager.

The theory is that if you have a level of structure above the manager then you shouldn’t have to rip everything apart if things don’t work out.

the problem is we have a short term culture whereby we rip stuff up and rebuild every few years. We cant plan long term as we don’t know if Rupp will still be here or is just nursing us along sustainably until an exit opportunity appears.

i’ll get pelters for this but I think the structure Rahic implemented is the right one if you have an investor like Rupp. Our issue was the people he employed were incompetent. He didn’t know English football, Collins should never have been coach, nor Abbott let loose with recruitment.

I want a young coach from a higher club or someone like Fil Morais (who comes across superbly every time on the radio, knows what this club is about and properly gets the fans and their expectations), who I think will adopt a modern approach and get players onside and enjoying their football again.

he played under Mourinho and has plenty of contacts in the game.

i would ideally prefer David Baldwin to take over and run the club heading up a consortium, with Morais as head coach, but Rupp seems here to stay for now, so, to compromise if Rupp/Sparks will remain, I do think we will need a football man like a DoF in to assist Sparks, who doesn’t have the background to be making these key footballing decisions anymore.

 

Sorry I had to chuckle at your example BL.

They sack the SAME managers REPEATEDLY and reinstate them repeatedly . Ferguson FOUR times and McCann THREE times in recent years. Makes our double recruitment of Stuart small FRY ( See what I did there?). There may be others but they are the two off the top of my head.

 

Look at the players theyve bought and sold Kev. Theyve had promotion too.

sacking managers hasnt detracted from their objectives as Fry signs the next Toney etc to develop and sell on.

that is an example of a club using that type of structure and not starting from scratch just because a manager gets fired.

as i said though, i want a new owner and coach ideally. Balding running show with Morais or A N Other replacing Hughes.

 

Greg Abbott is an experienced lower league professional who has been part of promotion winning sides and in management teams during play off campaigns.
Both Gent and Hughes haven't been anywhere near that experience, hence why we can't seem to recruit the players capable of or in Hughes case, come up with the tactics to succeed in the 4th tier.

 

Exellent post

 

I know all about the they have been one of my nearest league club for well over two decades and the nearest for the last 6 . They are always on our local news.

 

Noooooooooo Thrice no.

He’s a failed manager, so has zero qualifications to know a good one Vin? IMHO of course.

 

Who Greg?
Does he recruit the manager too??
Player wise Greg was a great lower league player who grafted and battled.
Exactly the type of player that Carlisle seem to recruit from the lower leagues.
We on the other hand sign players because they played at a higher level and think they must be better than league 2

 

End of this season...

 

So if we or any club has a DOF who creates this ‘identity’ and style of play and it doesn’t work, is the manager allowed to change it without permission from the DOF?

 

An aged player Vin. A failed manager at every club he’s been manager at , yet you suggested he be our DoF, based on the only fact, it seems….That he once played for us and he’s head scout at Carlilse.
He used to be chief scout , head of recruitment at VP for two years wasnt it, who did he recruit? I don’t care what he’s done at Carlisle , but simply managed 270 plus games for them and only won 100 . Sacked twice ! Who has he recruited from below L2 at Carlisle in their CURRENT 18 ?.
He’s not the answer yo our problem Vin.

 

When I look at the summer signings if Ash Taylor was the answer, what was the question?

 

I was baffled last night as we needed both Kelly and Tomkinson on the bench (play the same position, do the same job), but didn't need Pointon on the bench.

Tyler Smith - 3 year deal.

We can go on,

We've made some bad decisions over the last few months and they will catch up with us.