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Lee Angol

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Wakefield Bantam, May 4, 2022.

  1. NorthernMonkey

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    Hanson and the hats off threads with the poop emoji. They're not being beaten. Ever.
     
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    I was commenting on his inability to hold the ball up well, which is why I think he is totally unsuited to the lone striker role. He is better when he has a strike partner or those in support are nearby and not on the half way line.
     
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    I'm not totally enamoured that we've given Angol a new contract, it just smacks of more of the same.
    The lad's a great heart, and an intelligent player, he tries to do the right things and obviously takes in what coached to him.
    However, we'll get his availability for 20 games at most from him, with another return of around 6 goals.
    For the attributes I mentioned in his game, he also has a regular tendency to screw the ball 6" the wrong side of the post when in good positions.
    If this time next year he's on 20+ goals, I'll gladly hold up my hands and admit the club was right and I was wrong.
     
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    Like any player he's gonna have to be played in the right formation with the right personnel around him. He'll never be the prolific scorer you see at the top of the goal charts so needs players around him with goals in their armoury. We definitely need a new striker or two to compete.
     
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    I agree with a lot of what you are saying but from what Mark Hughes has been saying it looks like nobody has looked at Lee Angol's muscular injuries and tried to find out the cause or manage them. His training regarding muscle strengthening and also his diet maybe what needs adjusting to get the number of games out of him that we want.
    Mark Hughes seems far more professional in his approach to everything.
    Hughes maybe feels that they can manage Angol better and get more games out of him, which means one less player to go looking for.
     
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  7. Offcomedun

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    Probably not having Adams flogging them to death in training six days a week will make a difference on its own. But hopefully Hughes' approach of thoroughly investigating why he has recurrent injuries will pay dividends.
    Look at Michail Antonio at West Ham. He has had recurring injury problems for years. Yet this year, after changes to his diet and training, he's looked more physically robust than ever, has played huge numbers of games and only missed a couple of matches with a minor injury. So it can be done.
     
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  8. NorthernMonkey

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    Yeah I think I'm in a minority of 1 because I actually think he's very good at holding it up and making it stick. Especially under Adams when it was literally 4 on 1 and a 60 yard hoof he had to bring out of the sky.
     
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    You were probably just feeling sorry for him mostly. Which we all were tbf.
     
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    Minority of 2.

    He did as good a job as you could expect, really.
     
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    The Sparks interview refers to squad needing 'layers'. Maybe 20 games and 6 goals from Angol, for a cheapish wage will work for us. The key is replacing Lavery, Robinson, Cooke and Delfouneso with quality.
    As Sparks said, we're 20-30 goals short.
     
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    If we’ve any serious ambition to go up then Cook isn’t the answer.
     
  13. Offcomedun

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    I can recall making several exasperated comments in match threads on here about decent balls into Cook's feet either bouncing off him or being nicked away because he can't trap a football under pressure.
    In his defence, I don't think he's a natural target man. He may look like one, because of his stature, but he's actually a striker who prefers to face goalwards. He's just the latest of our forwards - Doyle and Vaughan being the two most obvious and shocking examples - who've been wasted playing a back to goal target role for which they're palpably unsuited.
     
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    Cook is your typical lower league forward from back in the day. Would suit a 4-4-2 but doesn't fit at all in a team that wants to play expansive football. And non of this crap about coming on as sub if we need to change the style of play, every player in the squad should be capable of competing for a first team place.
     
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    I agree, although we're probably stuck with him because he's still in contract.
    Neither Cook nor Angol will score us enough goals to get promoted. But Angol will contribute in many other ways apart from scoring. We need a more prolific scoring forward and more goals from midfield/wide players.
     
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    I'm not so sure we are stuck with him. To his credit, he is a player that wants to start every game and if he isn't going to have the opportunity to do that with us next season, he might want to go somewhere else where he is more likely to be a guaranteed starter. I guess it will be dependent on whether his agent can find him a club that can match the money he is on here though.
     
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    I agree with you, I actually think Cook and Angol have been played the wrong way round. Angol is much better at holding the ball up and feeding it through and Cook is much better at coming on to it and attacking the goal.
     
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    Angol can also play facing goal, cutting in from the left, and would probably score more goals used like that, but he has certainly been much more effective than Cook as a hold-up man.
     
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  19. NorthernMonkey

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    Just a quick summary and I'll leave it there.

    Cook, as it stands has a 1 in 3 strike rate for City and that's in poor and struggling sides so the law of averages suggests he'd get around 15 next term.

    If we improved sufficiently around him there's nothing to suggest, in a side dominating games, he couldn't improve that output by 3 or 4 goals and that would put him around 20 for the season.

    I'm not saying we can't improve but some of the comments on here are waaay over the top and I honestly don't believe that we've the pull or the finances to bring in another 2 better strikers than Cook.
     
  20. Bantam@{Lancs}

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    I don't think Cook will find another club willing to pay him what we supposedly are, and even if another club came along with an offer which would mean we were to still pay part of his wages to make up any shortfall then I don't think it would be worth it either as we probably wouldn't get a better back up with the bit we'd saved, and as a backup striker it's not a total disaster.
     
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