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Stefan Rupp

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Jan 30, 2022.

  1. Onside87

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    We don’t need investment unless it’s going into infrastructure. We aren’t in the prem where you have to spend millions to get the best players. We just have to use the budget we have wisely. Its been said that we have a top 3-4 budget so this need to “splash the cash” is ridiculous. Hopefully Hughes doesn’t make the same mistakes Adams did and leave us short in important areas and move players on like Crankshaw and Canavan when we needed strength in depth. Like others have said, Rupps personal wealth is more than enough. We are below clubs like Sutton, Crawley and Rochdale! We shouldn’t need some kind of mysterious millionaire to come in and pump a loan into the club. We just need to be much much smarter with how we spend our own money.
     
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  2. Park bantam

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    Completely right but a little extra to tempt sought after players who have a choice would be nice of course
     
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  3. ModernBantam

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    Maybe not an investment of cash but an investment of interest, the recruitments been shite for years but there's been little effort done to put in place a reliable and knowledgeable recruitment team
     
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  4. Fordy117

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    Well currently I am chilling in Dubai.
     
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  5. Faithful Bantam

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    Dubai is amazing. Enjoy it Fordy
     
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  6. JonButterfield

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    Good posts that outline the critical issues.

    1) As NM says, those running the club have neither the interest nor the ability to achieve success at Bradford City.
    2) As FB says, sustainability cannot just be financial, football is about competition. We are sinking closer to the EFL trap door every season suggesting that sustainability is absolutely NOT being achieved.

    At the minute, we're not even achieving the bare minimum of what I, and many others, would deem acceptable. We are not growing the club. We are not improving. We are not able to compete with smaller clubs with far fewer resources.

    All those that are at the helm of the club seem to be able to offer is the joke made in the other thread 'Maybe Next Season'. Nothing more.

    Maybe Mark Hughes is a miracle worker who single handedly turns this club around - but either way, it's mind boggling that people chose to accept the dreadful performance of those in charge of this club.

    I remember when @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler was trying to pin down @Fordy117@Fordy117 on who exactly the fabled 'dancers' were. I'd suggest there's only one dancer.

    Stefan Rupp.

    #RuppOut
     
  7. Fordy117

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    Thanks mate.

    Yeah, it’s well hot. Just seen the Dubai Foundation and in the massive Dubai Mall. It’s huge.
     
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  8. Faithful Bantam

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    While you're over there, get a bit of networking in an see if you can find a sheikh with a few quid who might fancy buying football club...
     
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  9. Fordy117

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    Won’t happen mate as we train at a school.
     
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  10. Petrov

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    The bare minimum should be improvement year on year. That is what Sparks said in an interview with Width of a Post about a year ago (26.04.21) -

    “We can’t be in this same position in 12 months’ time. We have to improve, season on season. That means the target for next season has to be promotion – anything less is falling short, in my view. We’ve got to have that kind of attitude and I am only interested in succeeding".

    Yet, here we are 12 months later 20, that's TWENTY, points off 7th place, and on course for our worst league finish in 60+ years. That's not just falling short, it's downright embarrassing and completely unacceptable. The fact that the club are still going ahead with the end of year player awards when we are where we are is a disgrace imo, and is in complete contradiction to Sparks' soundbite that he is only interested in succeeding. If that's how he genuinely feels , the last thing he should be allowing to happen is a celebration of failure.
     
  11. JonButterfield

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    I wonder at what points Sparks considers resigning.

    He's not coming close to meeting his own expectations.

    He's much closer to might my expectations of him, which isn't a good thing.
     
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    It would be to you Fordy! :joy: enjoy
     
  13. Steve1970

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    Think you may have misspelt Dewsbury
     
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    Nonsense
     
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  15. JonButterfield

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    That doesn't make sense as a response.

    Sparks set out the agenda for the season and said anything other than progress is unacceptable.

    Unacceptable performance is usually grounds for resignation and/or dismissal.

    You can ask Derek Adams and the many, many, many managers we've blamed for our performance if you like.

    I'll give you another chance though: what's nonsense about the fact Sparks is badly underperforming?
     
  16. simons (woking bantam)

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    Having got Mark Hughes in place Sparks is hardly going to resign now Jon, but if the worst happens and 1) MH doesn't get the support he's been promised or 2) we make a really bad start to next season - then RS will have nowhere left to turn.
    However I do not think either of those will happen and I am expecting a much more rewarding season next time out
     
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  17. JonButterfield

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    I didn't say he should resign, to be fair, but if you're setting out an agenda like Sparks did last season and you start dictating what is and isn't acceptable, then you're head's on the chopping block.

    Nobody made Sparks say that anything but promotion was unacceptable - he decided those were the parameters, and he's failed massively to meet them. For me, anyone who underperforms that badly in ANY job needs to consider their future.

    But as you say, he'll stay and hope Mark Hughes does the job. So do I, so do you, and so does every other City fan.

    At this point, I'll say I'm hopeful that come August, I'll be predicting a top 7 finish based on our actions in the Summer. But we need to actually make the necessary changes before we start expecting a much more rewarding season, as I'm sure you're fully aware :)

    For what it's worth, I predicted a midtable finish this season, and saw no reason to predict anything more than that - but I certainly didn't expect us to potentially be posting a 60 year low. To me, it outlines what we're lacking with Rupp and Sparks at the helm. Even Derek Adams could do nothing in the face of such incompetence.
     
  18. Tennesseebantam

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    Alternatively Jon, the aim he stated was the mandate for Adams. Adams has gone so is that Sparkes making Adams pay the price for not achieving his remit? Who knows but I can imagine RS pointing out the commercial side improvements to SR, and that those who were employed for the on the field aspect of the club, we’re dealt with for not bringing the success expected.
     
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  19. JonButterfield

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    He did say he wouldn't accept mediocrity upon appointing Adams, and Adams is gone, so you do have a point.

    However last season, one year and three weeks earlier, Sparks made the following statement:

    “We’re not going to be defined as a club that celebrates making 50 points every season."

    That was April 1. It's now April 21, and we haven't even achieved 50 points yet.

    50 points was a joke, Sparks said achieving 50 points would have been seen as a 'wind up' earlier on in the season, but we know how it worked out.

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    Sparks was belligerent and cocky.

    He said: “If you have an attitude that losing and mediocrity is not part of your vocabulary, you will naturally win more than you lose."

    No, sorry, we've no God given right to win football games - we don't just need to hire the best manager, we need the best CEO, the best chairman, and the best players on any given occasion.

    It's clear to me that Sparks badly underestimated the difficulty of the job at hand, and kind of assumed things would start to go our way if he made a few 'good' moves, like hiring Adams.

    We need to start doing away with the naivety and complacency at the club. Your stance has SOME merit, but not a lot, and I'm not knocking you for saying it, because on the face of it you're right, but we've literally just appointed a proven winner and failed even worse than we were failing before.

    Just saying 'mediocrity isn't acceptable' doesn't do away with mediocrity.

    It would appear we have appointed an extremely mediocre CEO to compliment an owner with no ability to run a football club, and we've regressed.

    Again.

    Adams has paid the price, now I want to know when Ryan Sparks will pay the price - but more pressingly, I want to know when Stefan Rupp will pay the price, because that's more critical.
     
  20. Tennesseebantam

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    “It would appear we have appointed an extremely mediocre CEO to compliment an owner with no ability to run a football club, and we've regressed”

    no argument with that Jon and despite the improvements off the field, clearly his footballing decisions have not lead to the expected improvements. My opinion is that he is out of his depth but the miracle that is the Hughes appointment buys him some time. I suspect he is (and knows it) drinking in The Last Chance Saloon.
     
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