COVID-19

Half Term and guess what cases down already in a like for like reporting date. (England only)

Last Monday - 39.5k compared to Today - 33.3k
Last Sunday - 38.5k compared to Yesterday - 33.2k

 

I don't think anyone has claimed that it is 100% side effect free. The query has been the number of people actually effected by it and balancing the risk/benefit.

I have had the vaccine and am currently recovering from getting covid. I would think I would be in the lower risk groups, no other health issues etc, but I've been hit for six by it. After having to see the GP today she said if I hadn't have had my jabs I would probably have been in hospital by now.

 

I bet the person running the BBC was upset they had to put out this news, just when they were generating stories from rising cases.

 

Probably time for some petrol shortages again.

 

More political games, Labour Mayor launches mask campaign.



Sadiq Khan has already done stuff like this already.



Please note these rules do not apply during the Labour conference.

 

I am sorry to here you have had Covid and wish you a speedy recovery hopefully the next few days you will feel alot better.

My thoughts however towards the vaccine don't change nor does it regarding what's going on as a whole. There are too many people suffering adverse reactions or even death after taking it to be hailed a success which many are trying to suggest.

Cases seem to be on the rise despite the vaccine uptake as well as the amount of people having problems after having it.

Something clearly is not right at all with the way it has been produced to see such issues and this is why the debate on here from last week where I was stating it will be 2023 or after before we know if the 'trial Vaccine' has been a success or deemed a failure is never more true at present.

 

I respect your viewpoint but do you do know these vaccines are just tweaks of existing proven and tested vaccines and are constantly being tweaked to oppose new variants. You talk like they have been made from scratch and are just a stab in the dark having been rushed in on a nod and a wink. They are not. I heard the person who made one of the vaccines explain how they went about it. Very reassuring to be honest.

Heard on the radio today that over 90% of those currently dying from Covid are unvaccinated. I thought they said 98.8% but that seems almost impossible but they may have said that figure.

My daughter is double jabbed and currently has Covid but has mild symptoms eg bad headache. I hesitate to think how bad she would have been without being vaccinated.

 

so it has moved to a ‘trial Vaccine’ rather than EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. How are you defining trial Vaccine? I know your experimental tag was to do with the manufacturers not having liability.

 

The AstraZenica is not mRNA, but Pfeizer and Modena are. They are the first to be released but the testing etc has been going on for years if nothing decades. It isn’t as if it is a brand new idea.

 

That figure can be proven garbage with any type of research. The people dying are those in the high age range as have been doing throughout, the majority vaccinated because the majority of that age range is vaccinated. It is false to say 90% of people dying are unvaccinated.

 

The vaccine is imperfect - I don't think you'll find any arguments to the contrary to be honest. For most people it's a lot better than nothing though even with the obvious chance of side effects.

I would advise anybody I know to get the vaccine but I respect the right of anybody to say no to it for whatever reason.

The little bit of worry I have with it is a lot of people who say "I've done my own research" can't tell if an image or meme has been photoshopped on the internet so I'm not always completely convinced of their ability to read clinical trial data as well as the professionals but I suppose that's the downside to free will.

 

I would guess the claim that 90%+ of deaths are unvaccinated are skewered by people manipulating figures with pre vaccine rollout deaths

 

Regarding vaccines I had the malaria one to go to Asia a few years ago. My experience was so bad I thought I might die and it was so bad when the Covid vaccine was announced I was skeptical about having it, considering my age and the unlikelyness of me actually getting ill from Covid. But the more I read and watched I decided to get it and I’d advise anyone to do the same, a bit of a sore arm and headache for a few hours, the least I’ve ever reacted to a vaccine and I’ll happily take a booster if offered.

Parents and grandparents just had their boosters, with no effects. Out of near 100 million doses it’d be more of a surprise if a few didn’t die unfortunately, but it pales in comparison to Covid deaths.

 

They are tweaks on previous Vaccines, just not ones that have been released.

And as I said the Astra Zeneca one isn’t even MRNA

 

working on that definition and what @Ricky thinks neither the Pfeizer or Moderna are vaccines then as he keeps banging on about them being trial and experimental

 

and today we now have highest number in hospital since March