Players taking the knee

Or in a lot of cases, sick to death of having it rammed down our throats at every opportunity.

 

We know racism has been going around a while in football and I am sure some fans will remember inflatable bananas being thrown at black players not forgetting the monkey chants in the 80/90s hence one of the reason why kick out racism was started up and rightly so.

But here's the thing if the players felt so strongly as they claim about racism in football why did it take them until BLM started to take the knee to do likewise why weren't they doing so beforehand? The FL PL and players claim their is no link between two well in that case why didn't they find a alternative gesture that way no one could link the two and the discussion is a non starter. Now going back to football federation saying there is no links why the hell did players mainly in the premier League wear BLM Logos on tops why did Harry Kane in December ( still on YouTube) last year say players were kneeling in support of BLM. Is HK lying or is the federation because clearly someone is. Then you had BLM banners across empty stadiums not mention the likes of sky putting up BLM in the 9th (yes the exact time George Floyd had his neck knelt on) which BLM jumped on coincidence I think not. Fans booing the taking of the knee is because of its links to BLM not because they don't support their stance on racism.

I will say again if the players felt so strongly about it they would of been kneeling long before BLM did ie (when Colin Kaepernick did) it's that simple yet when that question is put to them they can't answer. Any other gesture would of been more supported.

For me I will always support kick out racism such as when players Saka Rashford and Sancho received abuse that was so wrong on many levels and the culprits deserve their punishment, however when it comes to taking the knee not a chance will they get my support as to what it represents.

 

You've just completely owned the discussion there Ricky, well said and thank you.......

 

I have asked the question to several footballer's from different clubs local to me and not one player has been able to answer to why they weren't doing so beforehand. They simple jumped on the BLM bandwagon and if you need to put a colour in front of lives matter then clearly there lies the problem.

 

Lol - rammed down your throat - can only lol.

 

So the point at which someone makes a statement matters as to the veracity of that statement? If you weren't the first, the vanguard, then you are jumping a bandwagon?

 

The simple question is to which no one seems capable of answering is why players weren't taking the knee before BLM and then claim the two aren't linked.

 

The whole thing seems somewhat sinister to me, a bit like with the XR mob, all trying to destabilise our society, the lefties on here would say that we are paranoid but there is just too much going on at once to be more than coincidental...

 

Of course the two are linked - so what?

The anti-BLM narrative is a racist narrative.

Why the hell is this even an issue?

Racism and any form of discrimination is the issue. I've witnessed it all at football and whilst I love the game I hate this aspect to it, regardless of it simply being a reflection of wider society.

Good on the players. Good on BLM. Good on any stance against discrimination in any form.

 

Don't worry - there'll be a Q-Anon gathering at some point in your vicinity so you can have a group hug.

 

So you admit they are linked but the players say otherwise so once again who is lying?

People support kick out racism but will never support a organisation such as BLM and for what its leaders are about. I suggest you look up Sasha Johnson and Patrisse Cullors to understand why to name just two although now the former is supposedly no longer involved and her being shot was down with so called members disgruntled with her.

Not supporting BLM is anything but Racist if it was why are so many people from the black community against it and why have the likes of Denzel Washington Morgan Freeman little Wayne Candace Owens to name a few famous black people spoke out against not to mention the threats that people do receive for being against it. Not exactly a peaceful organisation are they.

 

Sorry but how does that make sense?

if people didn’t feel like it was an issue before a certain point what else are they supposed to do?

By that logic why isnt every problem solved already?

 

Football players taking the knee has nothing to do with politics or any movement it’s drawing attention to racism black players feel they are subjected to.
For the life of me I can’t see how a few seconds of kneeling can upset anybody

 

Because unfortunately for some, those few seconds equates to having it rammed down their throats.

 

Some very good comments amongst this. The Kaepernick comments are interesting, rather than empty gestures like wearing t shirts and the like Kaepernick put his whole career on the line to back his stance by kneeling while the national anthem was played, something which infuriated the jingoistic yanks. Such a strong and impassioned stance decreed that Kaepernick wouldn't play again. Until he took that stance no one else had the balls to make a stand.
Time for players to stand up and be brave in this country, the knee has been done to death.

 

In my book those people are snowflakes.

 

Do what Colin Kaepernick did. Be brave, take a stand.

 

Think you are all missing the point I am making I have no problem about players standing up for racism and I am 100% behind it however racism as being going on long before BLM came on the scene yet the players jumped on the bandwagon by doing the same gesture they had taken up. Does anyone actually think if BLM hadn't taken up that gesture players would have not a chance.

As I said above if they felt so strongly about it why weren't they doing so long before BLM did. Many people dislike BLM and what it stands for, even members of the black community so how can someone who is against BLM be Racist?.

As I said above we are told the two aren't linked but I have given evidence to the contrary.

The simple fact is if the players and football federation had done a completely different gesture no one would be booing. Why for instance couldn't the players stand in front of fans at each stand with banners saying show respect to all. That would have had a greater response by supporters than what's happening now. The gesture has divided fans more than kick out racism did and that's all you need to know that the gesture isn't working.

Let's also be clear you can't label someone who boos a racist because does that mean booing the ref after a bad decision or players after a poor performance can be classed in the same way as the ref and players maybe black?.

Also having to put a colour in front of lives matter whether it's white/black shows people as racist.