Bring back Stuart! (Now with Poll)

You cant get promotions when you finish top of the premiership or come 2nd or 3rd.

The reward for that is champions league or uefa. Do you agree?

How many times did Bowyer lead anyone in europe? Do you want me to tell you about McCall?

As I said, the reward for finishing at the top end of an elite league is not promotion to the league above if it was Stuart would have 3 promotions in his managerial career.

That what you judge klopp etc on, not promotions but europe.

 

Rupp was part of the decision making team that decided to sack Stuart.
There's no way he'll come back and work for Rupp again.

We haven't got a pot to piss in, Warnock is not going to get out of bed for what we're offering.

Would like Warnock, and as some have said, coupled with Macca would be the perfect pairing. Failing that, seeing as we are pie in the sky talking, then Aidy Boothroyd would be a nice appointment.

Sadly, GB will remain until the end of the season, because Rupp and Rhodes don't have the balls to sack him, and don't have a plan in place if they did. They'll continue to stick their head in the sand and go about organising more events like tonights to take peoples mind off the present.

 

In Scotland McCall had the

100% no chance of him coming back. End thread.

On another note his win % was the highest at Motherwell since the same period as Roy McFarland. in 40 years.

So he holds the highest win% as a Manager with Motherwell in Scotland and as a manager with Bradford since 3 points was introduced in the eighties.

 

Boothroyd? No, no, no, no, please no. He made a complete balls up of one of the best england u21 squad we've ever had.

 

I will say it again. What in McCalls CV would suggest that he is the type of manager that is able to turn around teams who are in a downward spiral. He couldn't do it here, when Motherwell got into a downward trend he resigned and he was unable to rectify the slide at Scunthorpe.

Finally Hearts, where he interviewed late last year, have also decided that he isn't the person to revive their fortunes.

What in any of this suggests that he is the right person to turn this around? It would be, in my opinion, nothing more than a move to placate the fan base at best, an emotional, knee jerk appointment at worst.

Rhodes and Rupp are not stupid. They know that McCall is yesterdays news. If he was ever going to do anything then it would have happened by now after 12 years in management.

But at least it gives us something to debate.

 

@Fordy117 you do realise this guy is taking the p1ss don't you, Mr Josep G Sala is better know as Pep Guardiola, are you or I going to negotiate the release deal with Manchester City.

 

what i also think is sometimes overlooked is the fact that the make-up of league one during the play-off final season was one of the worst league one's in a long time.

apart from sheffield united there was no real outstanding team, everyone was taking points off one another and during that season we drew more games than anyone else in the league. there were only 13 teams in the league that scored less goals than us and we averaged 1.3 goals scored per game. it was hardly all out attack.

we had a solid defence that was built over the previous few years which saw us through a lot of games. attacking wise, we were average at best.

 

Motherwell director Derek Weir said: “Everyone at Motherwell FC would like to sincerely thank Stuart for his contribution to the club, which will go down as one of the most successful managerial tenures in our 128-year history.

“We have been acutely aware of results this season, but everyone at Fir Park was confident in his, and the team’s, ability to turn things around.


“However, following a long conversation this afternoon, Stuart felt it better for all concerned if he stepped down with immediate effect and we respect that.

“Assistant manager Kenny Black will take charge of first-team team affairs in a caretaker role to allow the board to start the process of recruiting a new manager, which will begin right away.”

McCall will go down as Motherwell’s most successful league manager since the Second World War, having secured two runners-up spots, while he is one of only four men to lead them to a Scottish Cup final.


all quote above.. FFS he lead motherwell to the champions league

 

I've said this before, but if we had have sold Hanson for wyke in the summer that season, we would've gone up automatically.

 

Probably the most important part of this statement is

“However, following a long conversation this afternoon, Stuart felt it better for all concerned if he stepped down with immediate effect and we respect that.

This is McCall capitulating. As he did in his first stint here when he felt he couldn't turn it around and where he publicly admitted in his second stint here that he didn't know what to do when it all started to go wrong. The same I believe was evident at Scunthorpe.

The question remains unanswered. Other than great stats what does he have to show for his time a a manager? Cup runs? Promotions? Club chasing him to manage them?

 

You wouldn’t renew even if they did bring back Stuart McCall and he got enough results to get Bradford into the play-offs and promoted?

You would still stay away?

 

he stepped down because every year he was having to replace all his stars, I suggest you look into it. Despite finishing 3rd, 2nd then 2nd again with his best players being sold he could not do it a 4th time as the team was diluted in quality too much.

But if you think having the best stats are not worthy both at our club and motherwell and want to focus on the negatives then over to you.

Once again promotions dont happen in elite league, the reward is europe.

 

He's just told you.

Champions League football.

How is that not an achievement??

 

mccall must have been ****** his wife or something.

What is wrong about McCall is he is foolish regarding his career, going to clubs with his heart and not his head. Hence why he wont come back where he was not wanted. He surely must have learned now.

Rangers at the time as well as scunny and city were basket case clubs/. Just look at mr Swanns running of scunny, Rahics here and at the time the troubles at Rangers. The only settled club he had was Motherwell who are a small fish with a small budget compared to others.

 

This is not ‘teams’ is it, it’s our team, in the situation we find ourselves in now. McCall was a relative success last time he was here and harshly removed, he would be a popular appointment with a large percentage of fans, and he knows the club and League I am sure, all those factors count whether you like it or not.

Your view is a ‘feeling’ not backed by any sort of credible facts, are you saying MCCall can’t create winning teams? most managers have a blot on their cv ,that’s why they are out of work.

my criteria is an appointment that gives everyone including supporters and players a lift for the 16 cup finals we have left. I think short term for now, I don’t see Pep wanting to join us and we can’t keep giving long contracts out which bite us on the arse later down the line.

As for Rhodes & Rupp arent stupid, I beg to differ.

I want to see a new manager ASAP, if that is a McCall to the end of the season great, if that is someone else, also fine by me.

 

it is, but not in a one-club league. we don't use scottish football as a benchmark for players, we shouldn't use it for managers either. not with our recent record of incomings from north of the border.

 

If Bowyer stays on and we finish outside the playoffs destined for another season in league 2, what then? If they can't afford to sack him now, what's to say they will be able to afford to do it in 3 months time? There is also the little matter of Vaughan to consider. He is only on loan at Tranmere who are fighting for their lives in league 1. If he can't help them stay up, I can't see them wanting to pay out to keep him on in the summer so he will likely come back to us. So we will then have a player on high wages with 2 years left on his contract who doesn't want to work under a manager who will have one year left on his contract and who we apparently cannot afford to pay off. Something will have to give and one way or another, Rupp and Rhodes are going to have to accept it will cost them.

 

M8 thats ignorant, the lad just moved from Motherwell two days ago for 1.5 million. How many players do we have in that Range?

Motherwells youth setup was rearranged and sorted and it been brilliant.

 

Stuart wont be back. Honestly how stupid must he be to consider it?

Rupp was with Rahic when McCall left.

Just defending his name as the bollox he gets is pathetic. We love putting the boot into our own.

 

Motherwell were not the obvious number two to Celtic, Hibs and Hearts were - McCall finished second twice, and I'm not sure Motherwell have come close since.

Stuart can build excellent teams - his problem is and always has been longevity.