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UNFORGOTTEN : BRADFORD CITY FIRE

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Tony Wilkinson, May 8, 2025.

  1. Keefly Bantam

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    The mods got a bit giddy on this and censored me but let the poster spout shite. How does that work?
     
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  2. Steampig

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    Let's be truthful here.
    On this thread, all I've said is that in 1985, it was not acceptable to flaunt fire safety regulations.
     
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  3. Bantam4ever

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    I've recorded the programme, but I can't watch it yet
    R.I.P to the 56
    Never forgotten
     
  4. Steampig

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    The interviews are harrowing.
    But there's a lot of unnecessary footage of the disaster that many find upsetting.
    They've also obtained original copies and it's all almost in HD.
    Just why they felt it was required, is beyond me.
     
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  5. Steampig

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    Must add though.
    And this contradicts in a way what I've said.

    I remember the guy, literally bundling a possibly unconscious boy over rows of seats.
    It's always troubled me not knowing if they got out. The doc shows the clip and they say (hopefully true) that they did escape.
     
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    I too have similar thoughts at times. I was 15. We were at the far end of the Paddock by the tunnel. We got on the pitch and my dad went back a couple of times to help get people over the wall. He was gonna go back again and I remember shouting at him to come back to me and my younger brother....which he did.

    What if he could have helped get somebody else over the wall?

    Rest In Peace to them all.
     
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  7. Steampig

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    Mate.
    Sounds classic signs of survivors guilt.
    And again, you're not deserving of it.
    No guilt should be felt at all.
    None.
    Absolutely no reason to.
    You protected your dad who I dare day was about to risk the unthinkable.
    Total respect for you both.

    I'm certain there's help out there that you can receive to assist you to deal with it.
    Surely the club has a relevant contact?

    Always talk about it.
     
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    What an unsung hero Mick Doyle is guy literally sweats City
     
  9. Dennis

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    Yours was one of several posts which were edited or deleted because the posts were developing into a slanging match and name calling between a small number of posters. Most would regard this thread as a very sensitive one and given its history, the issues and the associated opinions need to be treated with more respect particularly when those opinions differ.

    Let's stick to the issues here without getting personal or throwing insults around. If you believe another poster is 'spouting shite' as you define it, then maybe you have a responsibility to identify what the 'shite' is so that it can be challenged objectively.
     
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    That’s where we were , by the toilet steps ….. I’m not adding any more , but Patsy and myself finally escaped under the floodlight by the players entrance.

    I remember it like yesterday . Still not watched the vid.
     
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    There are real world opinions and the complete opposite, conspiracy theory peddlers Dennis …

    I won’t hesitate to call them out . How I do that may be subject to deletion….So be it , I’m man enough to take it on the chin.
     
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    Simply calling somebody out because you disagree with their opinion wouldn't normally result in a post being edited or deleted. Resorting to personal insults in breach of the site's rules would.
     
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    Not sure if the stand was full but if it was raining it would have been absolutely crammed,many people including myself used to go in then
     
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    It was indeed full inc the paddock.
     
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    I'm not for a second, insinuating or even thinking that you agree with anything I say.
    I am however grateful for your statement.
     
  16. Steampig

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    Just need to add.
    Personally, I'd never add a "conspiracy theory".
    Anything I do talk about, is based upon facts.
    I also try to avoid posting my personal view.
     
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    “ I just need to add” .( For the umpteenth time! )

    That says everything everyone needs to know about ones agenda .
     
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  18. Steampig

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    Yes.
    Thank you.
    It does.

    Simply want to discuss the facts.
     
  19. Steampig

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    During the documentary. They included edited clips of Stafford Heginbothan, around the subject of blame, after the Inquiry findings.
    Was anyone else curious to why Jack Tordoff, was not mentioned?
    Every knows that Jack had the wealth and ability to funds required work to make the stand safe and was obviously joint Chairman.
    Yet they only, I'll not say hint at blame. But only associated the findings to Stafford.
     
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    We always get these questions around the personal wealth of our owners
    Wealth comes in lots of ways, but does not necessarily reflect ready cash
    Rupp for example is worth £130 million approximately, but how much of this is the value of his assets
    I would think I could raise £1 million plus if I cashed in all my assets, but would then find myself sat in the park with a bag full of cash
     
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