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Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity (DOGSO)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by 1976Bantam, Feb 15, 2025.

  1. Kevin1954

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    That screen shot of the incident speaks volumes, however as someone said earlier it’s pointless appealing.
    I can see some contraversy tomorrow night? Do they have VAR?
     
  2. andyc

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    Maybe the referees should belong to an independent body, with no affiliation to the FA, PREMIERSHIP or EFL.
    Paid for by a levy on the clubs turnover.
    1% would be more than enough to provide full time officials throughout the game, all trained to the same standard and all to similar fitness levels.
     
  3. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    Yes, to undermine the ref that you are slating in this thread. The incident against Wimbledon is the exact example of the nonsense I'm talking about. It's completely borderline. Ask a load of neutrals and you'll get a load of different responses. In light of this, a rational person would accept the decision is justified even if you wouldn't personally have given it. You just can't handle the subjective nature of football and officiating. Even though a decision might split opinion, it's a bad decision if it doesn't fit your judgement. It's just not a very rational way of thinking.
     
  4. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    What's the ref supposed to do? Teleport up the field? Fck me.
     
  5. Tony Wilkinson

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    Refs should do their utmost to keep it 11 v 11, both ours and Wimbledons incidents were fouls and free kick/pen could be given but the reds were OTT in my opinion ....
     
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  6. Bronco

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    I don't think I said that, but it adds to the debate, as you quote he made a very critical call from 50 yards behind (your comment) the actual incident.
     
  7. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    That's fair enough. When a ball gets cleared or a team counter attack, it's pretty normal for the refs (and midfielders) to be chasing play from a similar distance. I'm not sure advising refs to desist from making any calls in such circumstances to be a very sensible approach. They make the call to the best of their judgement from the position they have.
     
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  8. andyc

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    I also think this referee has not helped himself in any argument, when his decisions over several games appear to favour the home teams
    15 cards in his last 3 according to Simon Parker and only 1 yellow to the home team, with three reds to the away teams and 30+ cards in his six matches with the home teams only picking up 5 yellows.
    The foul against Halliday, when the Newport player was clearly pulling his shirt was basically nonsensical.
     
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  9. andyc

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    He did appear to get the card out very quickly. Did he give himself time to think or to speak with his lino in that half of the pitch, who should have been up with the play.
    it is for me one that could have gone either way, he is 35+ yards from goal , does not have the ball at his feet and Huntington is within range and heading that direction.
    As i said in an earlier post , we would be calling for a red and unfortunately we have to accept the decision , right or wrong.
    Fortunately the lads showed their grit and we got a point from a team in good form.
     
  10. NorthernMonkey

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    Sorry but the Wimbledon incident isn't even close to borderline, it's a complete injustice.
     
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  11. Bronco

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    I've never suggested Humphries didn't make the call as he saw it even accepting he was well behind play ;) ambiguous is a fair comment with regards the decision although I'll reiterate my comment on the decision was harsh, but it's certainly given us City fans something to debate, I was speaking to someone close to the club yesterday and they said the club were awaiting the referees report but he did not think the club would contest the card.
     
  12. JonButterfield

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    People will complain about any level of officiating, but there's no doubt professional referees would be better than weekend refs.
     
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  13. JonButterfield

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    Almost certainly, yes.

    Also, if they're pros, you're going to get more people wanting to do it.
     
  14. andyc

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    Not seen the Wimbledon one, so thought i would watch the highlights.
    Its hard to tell who is actually pulling who, so red card does seem to be harsh, the penalty, the ball is not on the spot and i am not having this hanging over the line crap, the ball should be in the middle of that circle, as that is 12 yards from the goal and the third goal looks like hand ball by the wombles no 12 to bring it under control to be able to play the through ball.
     
  15. Bronco

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    I posted his record since taking charge of EFL games as you say his record suggests away teams make more tackles that deserve yellows and reds in some cases than the home team, the Wimbledon v Crewe game is a strange one Wimbledon commited 14 fouls and no cards yet Crewe commited 7 and got 5 yellows that's one hell of a strange stat and let's not forget the red that got Wimbledon a penalty and Crewe's centre half sent off.
    I missed the last few minutes of extra time of Saturdays game not knowing Andrew Humphries had dished out 3 more cards I assume they were for time wasting ?.
     
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  16. andyc

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    All in stoppage time, so i presume so.
     
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  17. Tennesseebantam

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    Be careful what you wish for! Over here at high school (I know), we have the conventional 3 man system but also a 2 man system, 1 in each half and no AR. The only positive is financial. I coach and ref so I have a foot in both camps. At high school it is $85 for ref and $75 for each AR. Aside from that the 2 man system is not too good. I’m sure if all the refs were professional it might change but the major change we need is for AR involvement to increase. Over here, the “role” is simply to back up the center ref.
     
  18. Bumblebee_Tuna

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    If a large enough sample of fans were asked for their view on it and they upheld the ref's call would you revise your judgement? I'm not saying change your mind about the decision but rather change your mind about it being an injustice or would that hold no sway with you at all?
     
  19. Kevin1954

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    No just guess is a sensible answer. ;)
     
  20. andyc

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    Well apparently there is a plethora of ref's making the decisions on VAR and they still can get it wrong.
     
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